Thread regarding SAP layoffs

I can see some parts of SAP being divested to someone else but I really don't see why any company would buy the ru-p of SAP which like IBM is just living of the value generated in its glory days with limited modern products. Why would anyone who could afford SAP want ABAP, just like nobody wants ibm's cobol and mainframe rubbish

Of course not. It has nothing of value to any corporation big enough to acquire it.

@pn Also why would Microsoft want to deal with more German bureaucracy lol

The Microsoft rumor has been around at least 25 years.

I agree with the not gonna happen posters above and it will put it more bluntly, SAP would be way to much of a pain in the a-s for an American company to acquire.

It is one of the few remaining tech jewels of Europe, the different worker protections in all the European countries are a nightmare for a US company, there would be anti-trust complaints from all over the place, etc.

@jj+1kfqkr3d3 Loyal and the ones with high visibility and show off of pretending to do the work and deliver instead of doing anything impactful.

@g2 It's not mediocrity but loyalty that is more important. And in that regard, SAP is exactly like the current US administration. Only those close to executives and HR at SAP are getting favorable salary increases and stock options (which are actually supposed to be reserved for acquisition colleagues but given to SAP friends and family). The employees being laid off are generally from an acquisition so they are not considered loyal enough. If you look at any area within SAP, you will only see SAP employees with 20+ years heading the areas. Below the area heads, you have colleagues who have been with SAP for a decade or so. And those below that are T4 and T5 who have been with SAP for less than a decade. Meritocracy is also dying within SAP as only "loyal" employees are promoted or given stock options or better benefits.

Honestly, SAP won’t be acquired. However, if the present leadership remains for a couple more years, SAP’s assets may be acquired instead!

Oh! And sc--w the trolls and fascists!

Most of this website has participants from USA, that’s why the opinion is largely tilted towards US perspective of the world.
EU has always been a side kick of US, but hopefully after getting humiliated again and again by US from both democrats and republicans wing, they have sort of awakened from their long sleep.

Going back to the topic - @cb+1kfqkr3d3
Has made valid points and in the near future it wouldn’t happen. Germany and EU will never green light SAP’s acquisition as it’s a gem in their limited arsenal of European companies.

All the US folks who have their wet dreams about it can keep it in themselves. What you sow is what you reap. US has been sowing hatred since WW2 and king trump is the epitome of this and will be the final nail in its coffin.

@fg mediocrity trumps meritocracy - pun intended

It pains me to see that there are people in Germany who witness and hear about the fascism in the US and want that here. And on this forum, they are upvoted more than downvoted. It's not so different within SAP either. Many people speak out against racism and fascism only to never give an opportunity to a woman or person of color to grow based on merit. I joined an acquisition area recently and there are colleagues filling up the top positions with people they have gone to school with or have weekend parties with. We need to bring back meritocracy at SAP.

This is important for colleagues who are making the lists of people to be laid off. Focus on those that aren't adding value to SAP. Don't focus only on religious beliefs, skin color, s-xual preference, etc.

@cb If that were true, SAP wouldn’t turn down government contracts by saying they are less profitable. Also, SAP wouldn’t be aligning their entire semester plans to what Palantir wants. The current leadership and HR and most executives want to make SAP as much as possible like a US company with no worker rights.

@OP SAP was named the biggest company in Europe in 2025 and it's leading the discussion on EU sovereign cloud and ai so it's impossible that SAP gets acquired and even more impossible by a US company in the current context EU vs USA fights lead by Trump.

To sumerise:

1. SAP is too big to be acquired by European companies
2. SAP is too valuable to Europe to let it getting acquired by a US company

Europeans who support immigrants working at SAP are domestic te------ts. I would welcome an acquisition by a US company as the US knows how to handle this.

@c0 SAP is already working on internal development to replace the Open AI engine with a Joule engine. Dr. Philipp Herzig and his teams are working on that. This is expected to be completed and released during Sapphire 2026.

@aw joule ismjust.some sap customisation over the top of open ai or anthropic, nobody wants it because it's rubbish, plantir would never want it

@a2 Palantir would give SAP a real chance of getting their AI ambitions on the right track. That is if there is a right track, that’s my pessimist ego talking.

@b1 Stop, stop, stop! Your constant hijacking of discussions and infecting them with your single issue xenophobia and hate is itritating, annoying and disturbing. Take your isolationist & racist bullsh-t elsewhere! Alternatively, seek professional help!

The real problem isn't Americans. They are our biggest allies. The real reason SAP is suffering is European immigration. The recent acquisitions are infested with immigrants from third world countries. We need to take steps to rid of them. That will improve overall wages at SAP which will improve the share price.

Evidence shows immigration reduces wages significantly.
https://cis.org/Oped/Evidence-shows-immigration-reduces-wages-significantly

There has been this weird fantasy among SAP employees of being acquired by Microsoft. Has been for years, but will never happen. In order for this to happen, SAP would have to declare bankruptcy and be rescued by a larger company just like with Credit Suisse and UBS. Companies are looking for great deals to buy out very large competitors. Just because a couple of Microsoft leaders joined SAP doesn't mean anything. If a hostile takeover of SAP happens I will certainly start looking.

Palantir is also interested in acquiring SAP. But they want Joule to be so sophisticated that it can replace Open AI. That hasn't happened yet and is unlikely to happen. So we wait. I think the stock price will hover around 100 by the end of 2026 and that's when these discussions will hold more water.

Salesforce cannot afford to acquire SAP and Oracle barely can even with their increase in market capitalization. Microsoft is the only possibility amongst these three if it ever comes to that. But Microsoft would want the share price to be below 150 for this to be a good deal for them. I wonder what the executive board and HRBP will do next to drive the share price down.