Does TSMC pay better than intel ?
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the answer is TSMC work extremely hard while Intel isnt nothing can fix Intel
No intel engineers want to work until burnout while TSMC are self motivated.
What’s the comparison income of technicians? Some people signed up for $55-60k with bonuses, but in actuality making $70-80k through intel. Clearly intel has no career development path for technicians, even if their talent surpasses some of their hired engineers.
@pep+18FuKSZd, even if the pay is lower you should leave. Intel is toxic. Time to move on. Staying in one place makes you complacent and not good for your career. Its like staying in one grade for a long time. Good luck.
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Thanks that’s helpful. Is workload better or worse ? Is culture in TSMC of mutual respect or Intel’s dog-eat-dog?
I interviewed there and almost certainly get the offer. So want to get some perspective...
TSMC pays differently in Taiwan vs. in US (and the title of same pay grade is different, too). For a talented brain, if you get offer, it should be "higher" than Intel's. There are few catches (tax, far higher % bonus payout mechanism is not fitting short-year employment, etc.).
Culture is definitely very different. Work hours and environment are different. Bottom line is you can get more real works done.
Yet, the reality (real experiment data or results) counts but not the power point, "communication" might not.
(e.g., you can see many nice "talkers" got promoted quickly, especially, after Intel gave PE-and-above promotion to Business Groups from much smaller central review body more international standard/academia-like review >1 decade ago).
Most high-grade guys should understand non-technical marketing and internal "dynamics" plays a heavy tax inside Intel's world - even you ignore the race, nationality, language, ..., etc. People fight for "ownership" that is not based best corp-level contents excellence (surely, every *VPs would say or promote their own "leaders" or "gangs" to secure their power & resource). Many redundant, non-critical, and even wasteful tasks were created to fill annual performance review with nice-talking stories. Many guys brought in their own gangs (or voting/marketing people ... e.g., Dr. Murthy). With the similar total employee number since early 2000s till today, one can compare the # of high grade engineers & managers and found the huge inflation. TSMC # of VPs are most engineers and only smaller # of VPs (similar to Intel @ 2000 or earlier). Intel still has some great engineers and good work-life balance.
How about at Applied Materials ?
How much is a good winning team worth?
How is pay pro-rated when in but in a few years watch layoffs, contraction, house value plummet and lost attempt to move to a better gig in a better place ?
Did anyone address here how well TSMC pay?
Going to Samsung from Intel is definitely a dii is a degradation of quality of life.
It’s a backward move and everyone I know that did this move were laid off from intel or was put in a really awkward position in intel and they joined Samsung purely to survive till their next job.
Samsung culture truly sux. From close friends.
Meh. I don’t know about Samsung. Their culture is quite infamous.
We shouldn’t limit Intel’s competition to just Samsung, TSMC etc. I know many intel folks joining Apple, Nvidia, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Amazon and so on. And in hardware.
So comparing to just Samsung and like isn’t addressing the full issue.
Since intel stock s—s compared to these other companies, intel should make up in other ways. At least for now.
Intel does a lot of things in house and it is done on the same pay scale. The problem is that these "support" products are vastly inferior and waste everyone's time. The pay is comparatively great for what is being done and delivered IMHO.
Samsung base is considerably lower than Intel’s . As terrible as it is Intel is also a better employer than Samsung. Don’t know about TSMC
Samsung is cash only, no RSU, and both their base and bonus is far higher than Intel.
The main catch is Intel’s stock has very little appreciation. This is how other companies are able to pay very high.
Base salary at Intel isnt really that bad. It’s the stock where it hurts for intel employees.
Samsung and AMD in Austin both pay better than Intel for engineers. Only Intel management is matching pay.
I was asking a serious question. I know Most do not pay better than intel. Samsung & On Semiconductor and AMD do not in general pay better for grade 7-grade 9 range experience
Everyone pays better than intel