Thread regarding VMware layoffs

What will RTO look like?

Can you guys provide your opinions on what returning to the office would look like under BC?

Im not near a physical office and would have to move. Not interested in Palo Alto because of CoL. Lets say the deal close Jan 23 what offices do you think would remain open and how long would remote employees have to relocate?
Interested in your relocation experiences with other companies, ex symantec employees experience with relocation timeline and accommodations if any, what you’ve heard, tarot predictions, messages delivered via pigeon, BS you’re kind of making up. Id like to consider even the wildest possibilities because thats all I can do with little to no info from ELT.

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Post ID: @OP+1iQtusBd

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Well first if you go to the VMware campus prepare yourself for expensive cafe food, limited parking and pink eye.

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Post ID: @4may+1iQtusBd

Under AVGO you will work so much the office will feel like home.

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Post ID: @1nke+1iQtusBd

Serious question, does ANY Broadcom affiliated office count? It seems a number of CA and Symantec offices are still open in addition to Broadcom locations, at least in the US.

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Post ID: @1oib+1iQtusBd

Take the bus at 6am.

All will be swell!

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Post ID: @1gju+1iQtusBd

@opr+1iQtusBd That many words and you answered nothing. Return to office is presumed in the question. That makes the whole ‘you WILL be asked to bleb bleb bleb, doom comment fall flat.
OP asks how long he’ll have to move and what campuses might close, anticipating being in the office regularly post acquisition.

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Post ID: @1mvm+1iQtusBd

F your RSUs Hock, they aren’t better than VMware used to offer and the smart folks can easily find other options. Looking forward to many “thereg” headlines on security blunders in VMware tech when the brain drain happens. Hope Hock buys a dead man walking.

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Post ID: @opr+1iQtusBd

Ex-Broadcommer, ex-CAer giving you a couple of life lessons learned during his/hers tenure:

TL;DR: If WFH is really a deal breaker for you, start making backup and transition plans as you read this (if not sooner).

Lesson zero: DO NOT believe the HR lady at Broadcom. Nobody embraces anything at AVGO, when we're talking remote work!

Lesson 1:
The contentious debate between AVGO and home office boils down to the fact that the current AVGO governance (read: Mr. Tan) really hates variations in policies. To give you an example: COVID. Masks were required in the workplace long after they were repealed from all walks of life, just because there was one remaining AVGO office in one remaining geo where masks were still deemed mandatory by the local gov't. Why? Because the policy had to stay uniform all across the world, no need to go through the extra overhead of splitting and duplicating the processes.

Unrelated (but super related, really): a lot of science/tech VIP employees in the hardware divisions MUST (for real) come to the office, due to the security involved: when one works on the next gen WiFi technology (not yet patented, wink wink), one does NOT do it from home, but from a carefully supervised and controlled lab. One earns a c**p load of cash and RSUs for it, but one shall be in the lab every day (which makes sense, if you think about it).

Now let's put 2 and 2 together: if "those guys" must be in the office every day AND the policies are to be as homogeneous as possible, what does this mean?

Lesson 2:
After CA was acquired by AVGO (more so after COVID started), many higher level engineers with "connections" switched from an "R&D Sw Eng" to a "Customer Solution Engineer" position. Why? If all you do all day long is to talk, coach and train customers which are outside your driving distance anyway, you were allowed to do it from home, in the interest of efficiency and $.
Needless to say "someone" caught on. Just as FY22 began, there was a cull, where most of the people involved were reclassified according to their real responsibilities (and required to submit to in-office work policies once again).

Lesson 3:
No one in the initial acquisition was ever issued a WFH exception (see above for details). Some (very few tbh) of the subsequent hires got it, on the other hand. Yeah, it's based on the skills and the projected gains that new employee will bring. Cold, I know, but life has the exact same temperature. If the new hires were on a critical position, AVGO was willing to budge, just a little (i.e. 2-3 days/week in the office, instead of 5). You will see WFH-cleared individuals in AVGO, if you survive there long enough. No. don't think about bringing them into any discussion.

Lesson 4:
To make it clear: it is not so important YOU are in the office, but your badge MUST be there every day (and your company issued phone, if you get one). If your badge did not make it for a couple of days, your manager will have to mix your absences with other events and present a "synthetic" situation upstairs They will also have to justify why the situation is optimal and why nothing else could have mitigated it.
Take what you will out of this info.

Lesson 5:
There are timid forays into getting more freedom for pure software engineers in the acquired divisions. This might work out, but I would not count on it in the near future.

Conclusion:
Sooner or later (probs sooner), you WILL be asked to come to the office 5 days a week. You MAY be able to wiggle out of it for some time, IF you have the right position and IF you have the proper backing from your management. It will not be full WFH (unless you are an OG and you are really well connected). It will not last forever, because the AVGO cogwheels will catch on to that. Things may get better, but don't expect it before at least FY24.

As long as Mr. Tan is at the helm, this is how AVGO will roll. You will like it when you will get your RSUs (yeah, more $, baby), but you will hate it when you will start your car in the morning. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Post ID: @dth+1iQtusBd

@OP+1iQtusBd Broadcom layoff site has mentioned before they let you do WFH for positions that are not located near an office. I imagine though some teams will work in offices which is just like VMW was before where certain teams were forced into the office.

LinkedIn also had something about the HR lady at Broadcom saying they are embracing WFH. Personally, if they are cutting costs it would make sense to cut a lot of offices out and save the money.

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Post ID: @rmi+1iQtusBd

Just change the company man. Lots of places offer work from home. You don’t have to relocate

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Post ID: @mda+1iQtusBd

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