Is anyone really happy here?
I was on a team with several 10-20y dell employees.
I knew within 1 year working at dell was pointless.
The tech stack and problems were really not that interesting and being poorly adopted.
Apparently there are employees there who are happy working at dell?
Or is it once you cross xx years it's hard to break out?
"I keep reading posts about Dell pay is low. Is there data to prove this?"
Imagine still being in denial about this
ps fu to site admin
I keep reading posts about Dell pay is low. Is there data to prove this? Is anyone willing to share their functional area, location, years of experience and pay here?
“Being 30 years old myself, I instantly regret joining the big tech industry straight of college. I work for a much smaller company now but we generate a good amount revenue.”
I’m not sure why your post received so many downvotes but what you say is true. The culture at larger companies often leads to typecasting of employees which can restrict their growth and earning ability. When I left my last position at a large computer company, my skills accelerated dramatically as I got to design hardware, firmware, and software in my new position. My new coworkers were shocked that I picked up on new technologies so quickly.
Working for larger companies use to provide stability but even the big companies will layoff at the drop of a hat these days. Startup companies also layoff a lot especially since the cheap loan money has dried up. I have a relative who has been laid off from two startups and quit another job due to a sociopathic CEO. She now works for a very stable company that is growing and she makes good money.
My cousin worked for Dell for over 20 years. I never talked to him about but my aunt told me that he was working under a lot of stress and he finally left.
Several of my former coworkers jumped over to Dell for more money and many of them regretted it. Most lasted less than two years and several talked about a toxic work environment. Dell had a strategy of hiring competitor’s engineers and paying huge salaries so they could design and ship a new product. Once the project was complete, Dell would layoff those highly paid employees because their knowledge was transferred to lower Dell employees.
@1abb+1vWYDsJJ well said
Being 30 years old myself, I instantly regret joining the big tech industry straight of college. I work for a much smaller company now but we generate a good amount revenue.
I should have started with a company like this. As an engineer, I've learned to use a lot of technical equipment for every sort of measurement you can think of an I'm directly contributing to the product's architecture, design, development, and manufacturing processes. My technical skills have grown tremendously ever since I got out of big tech a couple of years ago.
Beforehand, we would just rely on [insert third world country that doesn't care for our national interests here] to the heavy lifting for us. We have a bunch of labs here in the US, yet those are being occupied by contractors. I'm sure yeah, those who have around the 80s, 90s, early 2000s have seen better days before outsourcing and it concerns me that the newer generations, such as myself, won't have that sort of technical knowledge. Everyone my age is competing very hard to try to become the next big name in corporate America by working at Google, Meta, Dell, HP, and so forth. Once we do get a job with the aforementioned companies, we quickly realize, "I thought this place was a power house of technology but all I see high-five culture and outsourcing." One of my friends was able to quickly able to climb up the ranks at his big tech company but I guarantee you that if I asked him to do my job, he wouldn't be able to.
So who in their right mind should really care about big tech? You make less money, you waste precious time in your career doing absolutely nothing except making powerpoints, you compete against your own peers to get a higher raise and bonuses, you are just a number to the corporation, yada yada. This is all the while you have people at the top making decisions to lay people off and consume your deserved merit increases.
It's toxic. I admit that I was one of those younger staff that tried making a name for myself. But it got me no where I no longer want to work for any large corporation ever again.
to the admin of this site:
I am the author of this post. Stop deleting my replies you POS just cause you don't approve of the quips. You ta-d.
suprised you havent filtered/censored out 'ta-d yet.
Wow, lots of infighting below. The most honest answer I can think of is that in 2024 the bill don’t stop, but they are also astronomical in comparison to 4 years ago. Many would like to look for opportunities elsewhere but post layoffs across all big tech the field is swamped with applicants, for jobs that can offer less and less. The squeeze is real.
And speaking of squeeze, it’s hard to find the energy after doing 3-4 people’s jobs all day to get off work, take care of yourself and apply for greener pastures. I think a lot of people (myself included) are so stuck they have to keep hoping it will change here. With the current leadership and self serving middle management however, seems very unlikely.
If anyone started working at Dell over 20 years ago, it actually was a functioning company then. The workplace was different. It was fun. People had friends at work and relationships were formed. Things have changed now and if you are still at Dell, it's time to move on, preferably to a different industry.
It used to be cutting edge when we were with EMC. I’ve got so much tenure and RSU’s it makes sense to stay. When I started I was all at smaller companies gaining experience. It wasn’t until my late twenties that I joined EMC.
Sounds like you’re earlier in your career. You should go and get some experience first and then go to a bigger company. Sounds like you’re not ready yet.
okay, this thread is apparently useless and has no value.
You’re ridiculing a normal a-s answer because you have nothing to contribute and wanna pat yourself on the back talking out the side of your neck.
Are you running out of insults or did you really think wa-ker was a good one?
In America we live to work. In Europe they work to live. In many European countries it’s common to accept or be content with a long tenure at a job without always being ambitious to trade up and job hop for more pay. It used to be this way in the uIS decades ago. They were called company men. And there is nothing wrong with thinking a job is just a job. It pays fine, it finances your life outside of work with family that is much more important. Lighten up.
People can easily stay at a company for the security; especially if they are low skilled and do the same repetitive tasks all day. Many people would be plenty happy with that lifestyle and work life.
Just stay down
long ago Dell was where the cool kids worked, but Dell on a resume now not so cool
I have learned by applying at other places, the other tech companies don't appreciate some of my skills from Dell. I work in a niche area, so I have valuable skills for that area. You have to really network with previous employees that work elsewhere to get hired outside of dell cause most companies see us at rats fleeing a sinking ship haha. But if you have friends that got out and will help you, it's much easier to get hired elsewhere. Don't ignore your wfr friends and stay in touch with those who leave for other companies.
Dell pays so badly. It's worth it to leave this place for better pay and skill development. Some people stay for the illusion of titles but don't realize they could get titles and better pay elsewhere.
Because I pay rent.
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Well if Dell is your first job in tech, which it is most cases for those who work here for many years, I believe, Dell just doesn’t allow you to develop the skills that are needed for better companies and they usually pay more than other companies that matches your skills. I see why/how people end up working for Dell for so many years.
I’m 6,5 years here myself and started as GSAP. Money was great for an entry level job but I have not developed a skill set required let’s say for Google etc.
Once I’m WFR’d. I’m changing my direction altogether into a completely different field. Currently started doing a Masters to achieve that.