Company ads used to only feature execs and hipos to stoke egos. Now Exxon ad spotlight hires from what was considered second or third tier universities. And you see more experienced hires company would never consider before. Actually, I wonder why they were even hired at all considering the lack of skills.
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@1idx It’s your colleagues who post here who keep puffing about being super-elite technical experts, and how Exxon won’t hire people they like from schools they went to.
I’m paid well for what I do. I make more than the inflated numbers you people post here. Unlike most of you, I actually work for my money though.
@1ddv EMHC doesn’t do any engineering.
@lac+1tO9eypL I am really intrigued by your repeated posts. What drives you? So strange that you post on here about how the smart people went to overpriced schools and then …. Got low paying jobs at the contractors instead of working for the operators? You don’t make any sense. Lean into that overpriced education and help us understand your complex thoughts!
@vzm+1tO9eypL Having worked with low cost engineering centers in India all I can say is you get what you pay for. There is a cultural element that is problematic when trying to complete projects. It isn’t just about running calçs on a project. In fact that is the easy part. It is much more behavioral. I have t seen the low cost center “talent” prove they are up to the task at hand
@mwt+1tO9eypL D-mbster EPCwants to jump to operator because - they see we pay more to do less and on top get to give “cost” and “schedule” and “design” ( please insert laughter for each of them)
They laugh on our backs at how incompetent we are, especially in Projects and Engineering.
Real engineering is now being done by competent people in India, and they are finding faults in your way of life.
Don’t hate the players, if anything go hate the game
@nls So do a lot of other executives. An MBA from NW isn’t the flex you think it is.
@lvo+1tO9eypL Dwoods has an MBA from North Western.
@dwp Ugh, more whining about DEI 🙄
@mwt I’m not the one who keeps jumping up on the nearest milk crate to scream about how bouncing tech specs around somehow makes me indispensable to the world of applied science, or how “top tier” graduate talent is required to log into Zoom calls with vendors and say the d-mbest things imaginable, if you say anything at all.
Think of it this way: if your job required high skill, they wouldn’t be sending it Bangalore to begin with.
@vdc+1tO9eypL You are an id--t who overpaid for your degree and is trying to justify it. You do know Darren Woods went to A&M right? He seems to have done ok. Rex went to UT Austin.
I see mostly DEI picks in the ads. Must be a bit humiliating to be chosen on that basis.
@vdc+1tO9eypL Is back. Please get over yourself. Most of the engineers working at the EPC contractors doing the design would jump in a second to work on the operator side. They are paid less and in my experience aren’t as good as company men.
@jjf+1tO9eypL A pipeline with a 5-10 year design life? I don’t think so. You clearly don’t have a clue. So you aren’t putting. CP system in? No chemical use? You are clueless.
Wow. One of those people still stuck on the piece of paper they overpaid for. Some of the smartest people I know didn’t go to a university or went to one you wouldn’t consider top tier. Not everyone is interested in attending top tier and all the work BS they have at those universities.
@vdc+1tO9eypL You don’t think the geoscience work or the advanced research being performed by our many PhDs requires a high level of skill?
The middle level technical personnel are overworked and under compensated. With uncertainty with job offshoring and failure to off shore the work adequate have send us in a circle of laying off working bees and hiring experienced hires. Typically we mess up experienced hires with our over complicated work process and poor onboarding/ handover process which ended them with PIP.
I need to have someone explain to me what skills that can only be obtained from MIT, Princeton, and other top-tier schools are necessary in order to function at Exxon.
Sorry aggies, A&M isn’t top-tier. Neither is any other school with an undergraduate acceptance rate above 70%
I don’t like repeating this, but you guys keep walking into it: there is no job in any large oil company that requires a high level of skill. The “engineers” at places like Exxon are just EPC managers by a different name, and even the EPC work is mostly contracted out. You don’t design anything, you don’t build anything, and you don’t test anything. Get over yourselves.
It is like the pipelines. They used to design them for a twenty to thirty year life. Now they are designed for 5 to 10 years. They say this is due to the uncertainty of future needs for gasoline and oil. That is why they are hiring what they do now. Throwaway employees. Employees that are only going to be here for 5 to 10 years. No more 20 to 30 years service employees. It is the new way I don't think the new generation can stay at a company for more than a few years. The pension is too far away for young people. They want big money fast. One person that left was mad that they didn't get a huge raise and promotion after one year. They want the whole carrot after a few years. I just work here and enjoy the lunacy. Someone complained about exxon being a fortune 500 company and the ability to do simple tasks and get thongs done quickly and efficiently. It is like the government nice and slow like mollasses. Except for the piping they sped that up. I think the pip process is the only thing that is fast at exxon. You can drop catastrophicaly from excellent to nsi immediately. Now that is efficient. So not everything moves slow at exxon.