Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Yup, i agree, my last manager was a spineless p_$$y. Intel's management will do things that pi-s off its Customers, the customers will complain to the Engineers, and Engineers give feedback to management who decide that the customers "concerns" were not valid. Mean while the customers continue to b****h about there stup!d "indicators".

What was the reward for speaking on the behalf of the customer? Congratulations! You got an ISP!!! :)

All layers of management need to go, they created the mess and they certainly cant fix it.

Managers are just not only inept , in most cases most insecure id**s,

They actually are the most redundant of all

Intel 1st and 2nd level managers have always been the least skilled

Most of the 1st level managers are just su***rs

Just today Koduri wrote tha Intel needs to increase Engineers to managers by 10! Fold.

But Intel can never get rid of their managers . Because managers are the real people who do all politics .

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Managers or Engineers/Techs?

time give us all ur 5 bullet points

Where else will they get rich watching other people present power points for a few hours a day?

Stop doing this analysis paralysis. Take control and apply for jobs at other companies.

Do agree 100% on 1st level or even 2nd level managers and their lack of any skills whatsoever except one and that is known for decades.

Nothing has been or nor will be done.

This company is anyway gone.

So at this point nothing matters anymore.

Cannot agree more. The whole culture is like completely low level managers. If we had grades those first or second level managers after few years will actually acquire a D and most of them F.

But they are the ones who have laughed all their way to banks with raise and stock and gave poor performance rating to their smart and hard working employees and rave ratings to their mediocre and politically motivated employees.

In my time at Intel, getting to be your manager’s pet had less to do with your commitment to your job and more to do with joining the clique through language, lifestyle. More like being in an echo chamber.

The same manager whom I worked for earlier was huge praise for Pat in November and said bad things about Dave Zisner at the same time. The same person started talking BS about Pat past December and started praising Dave from December.

The same manager who had horrible track record for last 3 years and just did almost nothing except create pot now as been promoted to be a strategist manager. But the work has been same, just shi**ting people.

I was a manager there. I tried to be technical and contribute but was told by my manager that the job of a manager is to manage. Got the he-l out of that shithole immediately. Can you speak us as a manager at Intel? No because you represent the company (or some nonsense) and there's nothing for you to speak up about. Can you do anything other than powerpoint? No, because that's what the company values. If you don't do slides and speak like a robot you are sc--wed. Most managers at Intel are just mediocre project managers. Most of them are just marketing people who know nothing about the business. They'll never leave, ever. Their situation is amazing because they get paid a lot more than in any other job they are actually capable of doing (supermarket cashier, McDonald's and the like) and they'll do whatever they can yo stay that way. That's why they fire individual contributors, not managers. Note: there were some good managers while I was there; they were easy to identify because they actually said smart things and their teams liked them; most of them left though.

Current G8-10 should just be eliminated. This is the "do nothing" layer that is just hanging around for checks with no meaningful contributions. Andy Beck in Texas consistently brags publicly about how he is just doing enough to keep collecting checks.

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You got it. Within a day of switch they will be kissing the a-s and obsessed with their new manager they just met 15 minutes before. It’s disgusting and embarrassing and cringy

Think damage is done and irreversible . Intel will soon be broken into pieces and those managers in most cases either will show up as licking some other a***s or else will have no choice but leave

Most of you who are blaming the first or next managers (in fabs etc) are bang on. Ideally those chaps are the most inept, insecure, damn political, completely out of any skills (over time) and only skill is to do an excel graph and ppt deck. Else they are just some totally control freak guys who just know how to yell at their engineer or employees and rest of the time just do nothing, ideally nothing except going into meeting and asking d-mb questions

Just look at the mgt and leadership of def met team. Say no more

How many managers have been here for 20 years and still just paper moving managers ? Ask their team leads to do the work, attend countless meetings to appear busy but contribute nothing substantial. Too many. We can very easily do without 50 to 60% of them if not more. See how it not just saves money and allows less politics but also allows tech leads to be more visible and show their work which is often taken credit by managers

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exactly this attitude of milking out the company has brought the company to such a state with horrible first and mid level managers with 0 liability, skills, expertise, knowledge or attitude.

Intel takes mentally stable, economically viable people and turns them into garbage.

If you work there and aren’t exploiting the company, you’re a godda-ned fairy.

It is Intel way of life. Your life will be sc--w up like it's broken culture no matter you like it or not.

Yes absolutely the first level managers are the real virus. I will say 75% of those managers if not more are totally and I will say totally inept and totally disgusting with only thing doing is to create ppt and chair multiple meaningless meetings which no one knows what it generates and what outcome we get. Then those managers show that they are critical.

I think even if you fire 90% of those managers you will not notice, because actually they just don’t matter, because really apart from like a placeholder they have no use.

Instead dog bi--hing: how can we maximize ours?

The guy selling trade secrets had the right idea, for sure. Just avoid criminal charges and let it RIIIIDE!

My peer was promoted to manager because the only thing he excelled at was excel. And he was good at pointing out everyone else’s problems, preventing him from completing his assignments. He left behind 0 technical accomplishments. He’s manager now, but can’t run structured meetings, just gets stuck on a single issue every meeting.

Everyone is so quick to blame the leadership and senior members for our downfall. But I would argue that is actually the first line managers who are toting the company line that we interact with every day or the real virus that ki-led Intel. Instead of speaking up and doing the right thing, they all had secret, agendas and motives for self preservation. This goes for every manager that you deal with on a daily basis. They are the real cancer in all of them should be removed for more competent and deserving personnel.

The real problem is that Intel has been a mediocre company for decades now. The mediocre culture has pervaded like a disease everywhere. Most of the managers are totally mediocre with no idea except licking. A manager getting pathetic reviews, in bonding leave for months gets promoted whereas a worker working relentlessly and producing results gets a bad review just because the manager thinks the worker may be smart or he doesn’t nod to whatever the manager says.

And over that a new breed of project managers have evolved, even though if you don’t report to them since either he or she is your boss”s favourite or somebody else, they too start bossing on you.

It’s a pathetic situation. Just the job market is bad else this is a place which as toxic as a living hellhole.

Sorry about all the trials and tribulations you go through involving ordering bananas for the employees doing the real work

Technical and interpersonal skills are not rewarded, kissing a$# is.

Absolutely you are spot on. We have managers which in most cases not even know what their engineers are doing. They bring in a finance or a ChemE or a Bio guy who does not even know anything about apart from excel (forget about even a single line of code ) to lead a software or data team, who’s does not even know the difference between data table and a a report , does not even care and they provide lectures and decide your fate.

Only what they really do well whole day is to create ppt slides and polish them so that they can please their boss,

Just 0 percent technical skills except of course one skill, where they are like greatest, is how to be sneaky and play the game to stay afloat with totally disorganized and way below average basic understanding of anything.

This has always been the Intel way since I've been there, which was further made worse by CPM. Why would they leave? They have a sweet deal, high salary to sit on their a-s and pull words out of it every once in a while to make it appear like they are doing something. Intel management is very political and the people who prioritized that over a successful product are the majority right now unfortunately. A lot people at the top are only there because they su-ked the right pipe, it is obvious they have no plan other than to just keep pushing deadlines, keep declaring milestones complete that no longer mean what they are supposed to. I don't see how Intel pulls out of this one, and it pains me to say it as someone that's been there almost a decade. It feels like they are trying to squeeze whatever wealth is left, stripping the copper pipes before it all comes crashing down. No golden parachute for us.

Over-paid, Inept PEs, Senior PEs, Fellows, Senior Fellows