How the he-l do people get promoted here? Outside of knowing the right folks, of course. Is it even possible?
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Join management ranks. Unless someone is a complete jrek, promotion to a Lab Director level, equivalent on paper to a T6, is a given. Promotions happen like clockwork, every 3 to 4 years. Double promotions are also possible, if you can "manage up" well.
Meanwhile if you are in some other role that involves technology, innovation, science, manufacturing .....stuff that no longer matter in 3M these days, kiss your promotion ambitions goodbye. Just be grateful that you have a job !
Sure it’s possible - big projects lead to big promotions and more money but at the end of the day none of that matters- they will let you go no matter how much you bring in, years you’ve worked or patents on the wall.
@ma it's only a coincidence that the least talent and least productive get promoted.
It's the people who are most closely related or have a personal friendship with upper leadership that are getting promoted, and it just so happens that mo--ns stick together.
Seems the least qualified and least productive get promoted. Maybe that is the key. Be an f-up and promotion will come your way. I have had supervisors and managers that truly did not know what I did. One had to ask what experience I had in my research. As I sat in front of the plaques of the patents I have helped create, Sounds boastful, but I have worked hard to see these fools promoted up and off to loftier jobs. We the few that create are being smothered by these educated (?) clueless nim-wits. 3 more years. 3 more years.
instead of waiting for promotion, i do quiet quitting. that kind of balance out my workload with respect to the pay
@OP it is impossible.
Maybe even focus on not getting a demotion or layoff or better yet sc--wed on bonus or incentive plan or options taken away or no raise let alone a promotion. This is not the place for a long term career at this point. Things have changed with lack of growth to cutting!
Ouch, if true that JG15 promo hurts.
When I left a few years back it was: (using current SVP/VP/EVP titles)
JG12 - SVP sometimes as a formality, VP usually made the call.
JG14 - First grade an SVP really looked.
JG16 - Just one EVP/COC member, not the full COC.
JG18 / VP - Multiple COC members / Executive Resources Cmte
Promotions to 12 or equivalent is still possible.
13 and above require SVP
15 and above require COC
Upward mobility is indeed dea.d
No need to be concerned with promotions to get more money. 3M pays big dollars to contractors and nobody every follows up as to where that money goes.
All jobs and outside annual review increases require SVP approval, requests monitored weekly, which leaves room for last minute freezes. Everything is as tight as ever. Raises are severance, external or retirement for any foreseeable future. Sorry, but looking more like bad things coming
Only external hires get a promotion (and a big raise from their previous job). BB has a long list of former buddies he's happily hiring.