We have all heard that phrase - they will replace you tomorrow deal. So should I give two weeks notice? Or just go ahead and finish the pay period and then on the last day put in the resignation via the HR thing and send an email to my manager? (i like the latter option lol)
I have never not given a notice at a job, but this place su-ks so hard I want to not out of spite.
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"Nothing to do with layoffs"
I see the talking pen!s is back...
@jw I'm a different guy - I've quit and returned before, but this time I gave next to no notice. I'm not afraid of what Optum might say to a future employer. I had other IT jobs in multiple other industries and I'm just in my 30s. I think there's great value in treating them as capriciously as they treat us. Proving that their bullsh-t rightized teams with "balanced" salary mixes aren't safe. Their sh-t merit raise and fat bonus (for me, ostensibly to attempt to reward or retain me) isn't persuasive. That people on my team see how norms are no longer obeyed on either side.
I specifically mentioned to colleagues with kids and houses, like, hey this one's for you too. They need to know they're past whatever breaking point and maybe they'll stop aggressively buttfu--ing anyone who shows an inkling of prioritizing life stability for their family.
I gave so little notice when I quit earlier this year that GSS wouldn't accept it... so my boss had to do more work! 2 days + change was the goal, but my decent manager in the sea of problematic managers above and around him didn't have time and moved the meeting UP a day to accomodate me. My previous quit was gentler and I cane back for a massive raise/title bump shortly thereafter. This time I figure either I'm burning the bridge or at least equalizing with the treatment we get from Them.
@OP if you give two weeks notice and you leave on good terms (aka you weren’t fired for cause), the company is legally required to state that you are eligible for rehire if a prospective employer reaches out. I think it’s a good move in that regard, but I will also say that I’ve given notice to go to a competitor and been told that I can leave that day (with the 2 weeks paid, they just don’t want to risk information going to the competitor). Leaving without notice likely will hurt you more than Optum if you’re staying in the industry, but I celebrate that everyone has free will to make that decision.
Giving notice is the right thing to do. To walk out without notice does not hurt the company. They just saved themselves 2 weeks of payroll expense. I will give notice because my integrity is not dependent on who I work for, no matter how awful they are.
@OP you will be flagged and put on the do not rehire list. Yes there is a list. Give two weeks.
People have to live their lives for themselves; not their coworkers. I've been on the side of having to pick up the slack because someone left unexpectedly. I chose not to judge the person or cry "woe is me" because I had extra work. I actually had respect for that person because they shut out all the noise coming from others and did what was best for themselves. When you work in a cutthroat environment like this company, you'd better look out for number one. The company sure won't be looking out for you. Your coworkers are going to be looking out for themselves too - as they should
If the company has treated you well, give the 2 weeks notice. If the company has treated you poorly, F the company.
Nothing to do with layoffs
Quitting before the possibility of being RIF'd is the d-mbest thing I've ever heard. Really? Giving up on a severance package? I know the package take 45 days after signing the RIF paperwork but who walks from free money. If you say you would you're only talking tough. Here come the negatives... but you know I'm right
People who don’t give 2 weeks notice are only hurting their co-workers, not the company.
If I leave before being RIFF'd, I will simply log out. I will start the next journey and move on in silence. When the box shows up, I will put the equipment in it and drop it off at UPS.
This company has been sh-----g on the American worker for so long I say quiet quit! Spend as much time daily as is needed to job hunt, let your work wait because you come first. WGAF about your manager and team, they aren’t true friends they are colleagues and you aren’t dumping on them you are dumping on a Corporation that doesn’t GAF about your career! The last two years I got a $5000 bonus but .5% and once no merit increase and that was fine because my raise was the 10-15hrs per week I spent on myself! It takes leaving this place to realize what a--hats most of middle management has become here at Optum. Alvida Optum, I am enjoying my Tomahawk, Au Jus!
Nah because I have a good manager and team. In fact if retirement is truly on my mind I would give a good amount of notice. If I am layoff then it would cross my mind but would effect severance.
@c0 Completely agree on this. You're not sc--wing over the manager. The manager doesn't care. Everyone else on your team will have to scramble to pick up the slack with zero knowledge transfer. I guess if the team is awful too, there might be a case to be had to give no notice. But usually there's a good apple or two on most teams and they're the ones that would be burdened.
@cc I'd give 2 weeks because it's the professional way to handle your business. I know you ay not feel like this place deserves it, and it doesn't, but your integrity is yours. My 2 cents.
They'll probably tell you to walk anyway
Before this job I would always say to give two weeks notice; however, there is actually punishment for giving notice. You are not allowed to take your PTO and in almost every state it isn’t reimbursed so I say no don’t give notice especially if you don’t plan on coming back.
No. I will give 1 week notice which will be plenty of time for transition & minimizes any awkwardness.
Sometimes people need to protect their mental health & do what works for them.
I read on here that HR needs 3 days to process the resignation. Maybe it has to do with processing last pay or getting the paperwork out for COBRA.
When you are RIFed, they encourage you to use the time to look for jobs. Of those I know RIFed, they changed their status to offline, did not attend meetings & spent the time looking for jobs. They did answer emails & continue to help on an as needed basis.
If you give two week notice, most the time they will walk you out same day which means you get two weeks pay for not working.
I personally give 2 weeks if I'm able to. I had a petty manager once and she treated a colleague unfairly on multiple occasions. For whatever reason, the manager didn't like the output from that colleague even though it was on par with the output of the rest of the team. That colleague eventually gave a no notice resignation. Did it hurt our manager or the company, no...... but it absolutely hurt the rest of us on the team. I lost some respect for that colleague as we were on great terms. When she quit, she ghosted us all. I'd personally not want to put colleagues through that.
a two week notice benefits YOU! Do you really want your employment record to say "Resignation - No Notice"? One of the biggest red-flags for hiring managers
@a2 Fu-k waiting around for a layoff. Yes i would LOVE a layoff at this point. its not happening. I have another job lined up and im ready. fu-k it, im not putting in a notice.
@a2 I have another job lined that isnt ba--s.
you are helping them by quitting , let them
lay you off unless you have another gig lined up