@j2 Eh, depends how much you were making while at Dell... Realistically, Dell has better things to do than fight with unemployment agencies and if the unemployment agency doesn't hear back from Dell (or any company) then you are granted unemployment automatically.
I'd bet money that the majority of IC's get unemployment after quitting Dell. Most IC's make under 150k anyways and, like I said, Dell HR/legal/finance has better things to do than respond to hundreds of unemployment agency calls.
@a5 No but, if you suddenly can't get into xyz websites or programs then chances are, your NT user ID has been yanked from the GPO and to prevent you from doing any damage lol.
@db As someone who has been PIP'd, this is not true at all. In 2017 I was PIP'ed and my PIP was for 3 months, then a review, if you were improving then it was another 3 months. If you pass then you stay - though why would you at this point?
The minimum severance pay for Dell is only 2 months + 1 week for each year you were there. So if you were to get WFR'd, you'd still collect a smaller severance than if you were on a 6m PIP because you'd still be employeed until that PIP runs it's course.
So, being put on a PIP is technically still better than being laid off as you literally are guaranteed 3 -6 months of pay and health insurance.
I hated my job anyways and the PIP just made it 100x harder so I did what I could. After 3 months, my manager told me I wasn't likely going to pass and gave me an offer to either quit or finish out the PIP.
He said if I quit, he'd pay me for another 2 weeks - so an extra paycheck lol - and that PIP wouldn't go on my HR record in case I ever wanted to come back to Dell. OR I could finish the PIP out and possibly get fired.
I chose to continue the PIP for another 2 months and do the bare minimum as I was more than happy to fail the PIP anyways at this point. Then I talked w/ my manager and quit. I 100% did collect unemployment, though.
I found another job but it was a contract job. After that, I was brought back into Dell as a contractor in a TOTALLY different field and here I am, 6 years later.
Point is that, you absolutely can collect unemployment if you quit. Maybe not always but I suppose it depends if your manager liked you or not and, likely most importantly how much you were making. Dell has better things to do than fight with unemployment agencies over a 30k/year hourly employee lol... He-l, I've been fired from a contract job before and still collected unemployment.
The way it works is this. You go to the unemployment office/agency in your state. Apply. Then they will call up your employer and if they don't hear back, they grant you unemployment. Trust me.
@db Bullsh-t, Dell will try and fight back against your unemployment if you're fired after a PIP but 9/10 they'll still be rewarded Unemployment once the case is reviewed.
Which is an entirely new level of sh---y, but them's the brakes.
No, you don't. If you are laid off, you can collect unemployment. If you are put on a PIP, they will give you the option to take a horribly low severance or fire you. Regardless of whether it's you take the low severance or being fired, you won't collect unemployment. I'm in leadership. PIPs are a tool we use to get rid of bottom performers or people we don't like and save the company money. You want to get laid off in a WFR.
@ag once you get the call you are tracked. Not before.
Careful what you wish for. Failed PIP = no package.
@a5 someone said at one time that there was a file or app or something they’d silently install, but I can’t confirm. Maybe if I’m lucky enough to get an invite and leave the sinking ship.
Any way to see in workday if you are going to get WFR’d? Any signs?
100%
Yep... Dell is optimizing for stock price, not service
Layoffs show up in the org chart like ghost edits