Anyone else getting that tingly spidey sense feeling a layoff round is coming to coincide with the RTO4 and the end the EV tax credit on 9-30. I feel something wicked is coming this way or major restructuring with Model e finally getting big changes.
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@p6 I read that the state waives the fine if the company pays the fired workers a severance as much as the fine would be.
That’s why fired workers get any money at all.
@hz look closely there have been ongoing stealth cuts this year. The trickle approach doesn’t trigger the WARN notifications. It’s hard to say if there will be one big one this year or if they will just continue with the stealth cuts. Either way US jobs are getting cut. There have been volunteer and volun-told retirements in leadership. Some have already been announced others are pending.
@hz - if that's the case, then why didn't the layoffs in August, 2022 get posted?
Its been a sh-t show since 2008. About every 2 years we go through the same thing. People are tired of being scared for their jobs every 18-24 months.
And the arrogance of the king of recalls to blame/punish the lowly GSR's for the horrendous decisions that management makes is off the charts. RTO is the punishment, collaboration is the excuse, poor decisions and lack of control is the reason.
We sit here and watch all the stupid a-s sh-t they do and they just want us to blindly nod and agree, kiss the ring, and bow to stupidity? They have no clue what life is really like.
@jv why rate cut will trigger layoffs?
@hs Winter is coming...
Rising expectations of rate cuts in September may trigger another round of layoffs across the automotive and tech sectors. Unemployment is already high that many gave up on job search after applying to 1000+ positions. Its almost impossible to get a job with less that 5 years of experience. Happy with the media , we are booming , stocks are up , bitcoin is up and Trump is paid millions to promote Bitcoin and capitalize 2 billion on bitcoin for his family.
Michigan companies are required to pre-post upcoming layoffs with the state. The url is https://www.michigan.gov/leo/bureaus-agencies/wd/data-public-notices/warn-notices
Bunch of rumors and BS.
They won't wait for September. Historically it's been done August.
Batten down the hatches.....
LL6 are known widely to be useless and will finally be cut voraciously
With the record in Ford vehicle recalls, how can Ford possibly lay anyone off
How many times in the last year or two have we been through a "restructuring"? Will it be something "wicked" as in evil? No, things are what they are. All you are witnessing here is people probably d-mber then a good amount of GSR's doing the work, making decisions in a knee-je-k reactionary fashion. If you think for one minute that the people running the show are smarter than the majority of employees, then don't.
The contractors at the GM Tech Center work circles around the GM “skilled “ trades. The skills I have seen by the GM UAW include hiding, sleeping, reading newspapers etc. None of them would survive a week in a real job. UAW “training” is very poor and is barely worth the paper it’s written on. While the contractors are doing the work that union employees are unable and unwilling to do, the union guys laugh at them.
@aa+1k142q338 It is evident to me that you have no clue about Agencies, or PS. If all PS and Agency leave the company, the Ford employees would not be able to function at all. Half of my team are contractors, and it is the better half. Most of the employees are waiting for their 30 years to retire, and don't do much.
BTW, contractors used to have performance reviews, just not as often as FTE. Those performance reviews are sent to the Agencies. If the performance reviews are bad, the contractors are not renewed for next year. However, FTEs do performance reviews so often, and nothing changes.
All the management "buddies" receive top notch reviews, even when contractors are the ones doing their jobs. Most employees don't do much, or their reviews don't change in time, like their real performance did. As long as the employees complete The Voice, The Pulse or whatever is called their "feedback", with compliments to their managers, they can get a paycheck with nothing to show for.
Moreover, contractors work more than 40 hours a week, but they don't get paid OT. There are hard working employees delivering 60-70 hours a week and not getting OT, as well. However, I noticed some employees only pretend to be busy during office hours, and do their jobs after hours. They would boast how they spent 80 hour last week working on the project delivery, but funny thing is that they would not answer emails, chat or calls during the office hours. Because I have been working at Ford for years now, I remember the same guys in the office, arriving late, leaving early, having long breaks and lunches, talking with others, and still boasting of 80 hour weeks.
Now, regarding the cost savings of a contractor, it is fairy simple. An employee costs salary, benefits, vacations, payroll taxes and contributions, sick days, PTO, pension or 401K matches, health insurance, HR, etc. Agency only cost an amount of money that is less that the cost of the employee, without managing all the rest. Show me which contractor has 5 weeks of vacation, 'cause none are in my area, but we have several employees that "disappear" in November until the following year.
Now, I would agree that in a "regular" company, like it was Ford back years ago, the contractors that were good were rewarded with employment positions, and the employees would bleed blue. However, in the last 20 years, many contractors have seen the employment positions used as "dangling carrots" for motivation, but still nothing is done while Ford kept hiring outsiders to fill their employee positions. So that's why Ford has so many "career" contractors. Interestingly enough, many of those contractors are now safe, because Ford is targeting employees over contractors. Karma is a b!tch, isn't?
@ae WFH and lack of quality training is the boogeymen responsible for all the quality issues. It has to be. Because mismanagement cannot be the reason. So let’s start pushing for 5 day RTO and roll out quality training the last three years. Yeah, that’s the ticket…problem solved.
LMAO. Typical Ford. Grandiose plans for labor reduction but no such plans for component cost reductions or an increase in component reliability or durability. Just what customers want. Except for one thing. I really don't think customers care about head count or RTO metrics when product quality continues to slide and costs continue to rise for a substandard product. Not much being posted about those actions. Let me guess. There are no plans for those actions. My bad.
There is a cost reduction task targeting September for completion. This is not a secret, it was on one of the slides in the last town hall meeting with the RTO announcement. I’ve been with Ford since 2016, I can guarantee you every cost reduction means layoff. The real question is if it all happens at once or slow release every month to avoid bad PR.
First, they need to quit with all the Prch Svcs they do. Next, need to clean house with agency. How the heck do we have agency people that have been at Ford in basically the same role for almost 20yrs. Should not have career staff that are not subject to performance reviews, have no objs they have to meet, are supposed to only work 40hrs or need to be paid OT. That is beyond insane and I don't see the cost savings as Ford pays quite a lot to the agency houses for each head.
cannot say for the whole ford, but some teams already at barebones
First it was purchase service, then RTO, then it’s going to be sweeping changes to agency, then if the number left is too high, layoffs.
Everyone knows it’s coming just matter of time…