Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

@OP I 1000% agree! The one pi---d about this post are the same ones taking advantage of the company and also making it look bad for the ones that actually perform their duties when WFH.

@f3

Work from home is not real work. Get a robot to do it for free

@nr
Aaahhhh... another of Bootlicker Guy's calling cards.... When one of his behaviors or habits are exposed, he blames others of the same thing. He was the kid in school that responded to every insult with, "I know you are, but. What am I?" because they couldn't think of a comeback.
And it only took one whole day... Good job!

ironic that you, @gq (AKA OP), the RTO cheerleader ad nauseam, would accuse another saying, "They post the same anti RTO themes over and over like a playlist on repeat."
That's the same thing you do with your pro-RTO rhetoric, before furiously and repeatedly upvoting your own madness, while repeatedly downvoting the rational thoughts of responders with whom you disagree.

WFH will be over before you know it! If we survive the riff be thankful you have a job! Turn our company around!

@k1- Bootlicker LUSH?!?

Ever notice how bootlicker guy's posts get more and more excitable and irrational as the day goes on? I think he might be an alcoholic. That would explain why he's so terrified of rto. He's afraid he won't be able to hide his drinking in the office.

How about you leave and go to a company that is full time RTO?

@ar Bootlicker Guy is most definitely here... and on every RTO/WFH thread. They post the same anti RTO themes over and over like a playlist on repeat. They obviously think we'll all start believing their rhetoric if they repeat it enough. At this point I'd be surprised if they don't have a masterfile of posts they copy and paste from over and over. Pay attention to the pro-WFH posts. They all use the same sentence structures, the same vocabulary, the same tone. This indicates a single source. Bootlicker Guy is still here. They just stopped saying "bootlicker".

This is ridiculous. I get more work done on the WFH days than I do on the in-office days. There is nothing that we do in the office that cannot be accomplished at home. I did better networking with coworkers in other locations when I didn't have to worry about who I was bothering around me. That extra time needed for the commute can make the difference on whether I work an 8 hour day or a 9+ hour day.

"The company simply cannot afford to pay for your afternoon tennis lessons, golf rounds, 2 hour boozy lunches, laundry, Costco runs, child day care, etc. the list goes on and on." This statement is so beyond ridiculous. The people that I know who take 1-2 hour lunches are the people working in the office. There is nowhere close to the office to eat so just a simple run for a drive-thru takes at least 30-45minutes and a sit-down restaurant is easily a 1-2 hour lunch break.

WFH people, it's ok to ignore company RTO rules because you feel like it. We understand.

Some of us were hired as remote employees now forced to go into the office. So sit down somewhere with your ignorant opinion about going back into the office.

@aj no.Essential workers don't work from home or make powerpoints

If you think you can't sc--w off in an office, I have a bridge to sell you...

This the type of person who’s only friends are at work because they are an inane loser in the real world

Traveling to an office is pointless if your manager and your team are not there. What exactly does that accomplish? RTO might makes sense for teams that are located in one area, but even then, what the h-ll do we have tools like Slack for if we have to be sitting with each other to get our work done?

I’m sorry but not everyone has an office to go to locally. The only person sounding entitled right now is you. I wish I had the option to go to an office instead of being told I cannot apply for any jobs unless I pick up and move to one of the 3 designated cities they allow. Everyone is going through a stressful time right now so being a je-k isn’t helpful. Have the day you deserve.

If you were working in a Verizon location before Covid and are currently a hybrid employee, it’s very possible that employees will be told that they must work at the office 5 days a week next year.

LOL @ a company making billions in profit somehow "can't afford" to give employees a little work life balance that doesn't actually exist in remote work, and people still work 40+ hours and often longer and don't unplug as easily.

Go read any of the research compiled in the past decade and your argument falls on its face profoundly.

Many remote workers do not have team members in their office. Many were hired as remote long before Covid and their teams are scattered all over the country. I personally get more work done on Monday and Friday. I have more conference calls scheduled on those days because its quiet and I do not have all of the office noise to deal with. Some people work better in an office environment and some need the peace and quiet. There is no "one size fits all" Remote work makes sense for some teams and not for others. I work 8 hours when I am in the office. When I go home, I dont log back into my laptop. But on days I am remote, I start at 7am and work until 6pm. Sometimes I will work until 9pm if there is something that is urgent. Do some people take advantage of remote work? Of course, and those people should be dealt with. Do some office workers socialize all day? Also yes.

MFour day weekends are gone and not coming back. You are going to have to actually work on Fridays and Mondays.

@aq

Despite what you may think, you and the job you chose are where the line is drawn. To have any merit, you have to practice what you preach.

You need to find the person with the absolute worst working conditions and voluntarily replicate them every day. Otherwise, stfu, do the job you have and don't concern yourself with other people's situations.

Until then, you're nothing but a simple-minded hypocrite.

@ag

And all in-office work is immune? Hilarious that you believe that.

@OP

"afternoon tennis lessons, golf rounds, 2 hour boozy lunches, laundry, Costco runs, child day care, etc. the list goes on and on."

It certainly seems like you've spent extensive time monitoring your co-workers, to come up with such an extensive list, because you certainly aren't talking out of your farthole.

How are you possibly managing your own workload, with so much time admittedly off task?

Some people are way too invested in where others work. Are y'all bored with the current fa-t sniffing and pe-k.er peeking options in the restrooms, and craving variety?

You aren't getting it from me! I'll stay at home, safe from relentless pervs like you. So sorry if that's not the result you were anticipating.

@OP you started yet another RTO thread to complain that you're "...sick and tired of all the RTO complainers on here." ?

The company policy is to come into the office 3 days a week. If you can't follow the rules, you should be first on the chopping block. Simple.

The world has changed, Verizon changed, most people’s jobs have changed…if anyone thinks 5 days in the office makes sense anymore then they’re just out of touch with the reality of employees experience.

I couldn’t care less if someone is in the office or not as long as they do their job

I asked perplexity and this is what it said. I am now informed and agree you are a troublemaker for trouble sake.

“I disagree with the post.

It takes a fair concern—people resisting return-to-office policies—and delivers it with unnecessary hostility and generalization. Instead of offering a thoughtful defense of office culture or teamwork, it attacks remote workers and assumes bad intent. Productive work environments usually benefit more from mutual respect and flexibility than hardline ultimatums.”

@aq this is a point I heard before but it's completely not one sided. The field workers yes have to for up but those same field workers are some of the laziest people. In fact my family told that they sit in the van playing with phone to keep an appointment the full time than trying to hustle and get to another customer. The union backing encouraged this. But the part that is missing is that these same field workers have a union basically cult that protects them. So yes they should go in since they get that benefit. As for corporate there is no such thing as we all know with RIF, layoffs and etc every minute. If corporate wants to have us form a union and we can be secure and lazy like fellow field people then sure In office is perfectly fine. If that's not going to happen I suggest you to shut up or tell the full context about field. Field and Union is also dragging down company with their work ethic

@aq this is a point I heard before but it's completely not one sided. The field workers yes have to for up but those same field workers are some of the laziest people. In fact my family told that they sit in the van playing with phone to keep an appointment the full time than trying to hustle and get to another customer. The union backing encouraged this. But the part that is missing is that these same field workers have a union basically cult that protects them. So yes they should go in since they get that benefit. As for corporate there is no such thing as we all know with RIF, layoffs and etc every minute. If corporate wants to had us form a union and we can be secure and lazy like fellow field people then sure In office is perfectly fine. If that's not going to happen I suggest you to shut the up or tell the fully context about field. Field and Union is also dragging down company with their work ethic

Where is Bootlicker Guy?!?!?

And totally not fair to the hard working men and women in the field who show up every day rain or shine to maintain this network, while these people are at home “working” in their pajamas. If we’re all on the same team we should all be putting in the same effort.

People here have such a fu--ing weird mentality about working from home. It's so obviously better. You can start earlier and end later because you don't have to drive to and from the office, you're not compelled to spend money on eating out by co-workers and can also just work through lunch munching on a sandwich at home. You're also not bogged down by office chatter. There's no legitimate reason to work in an office over working from home. Work has to get done regardless and it's apparent when it's not. The location doesn't matter.

The only people who actually WANT to work in the office vs at home are people who need a break from their family or are too incompetent and immature to be able to work unsupervised without a manager peering over their shoulder.

@ad you would be wrong. It's been permanent policy for the 30 years most of have been doing this. Most of us with this time line are pretty high up in the company. Verizon is very happy with this which has proven to work. So keep hating and keep stressing over it.

@ag says someone who is most likely a lady b-m making slides and trying to present or"talk" every minute. In office is fine and remote is fine provided you can show good work. All the modern AI by big tech has been done in office, remote off hours anywhere. But that's hard to explain to id--ts that can barely add numbers

@a1 pretend to work. Work being emails and buzzwords.

@aa if your "job" can be done from home, then AI can do it for pennies a day

All the people that say return to office are usually the ones that gossip and work the least and are lazy to think. The office is how they survive because they have no idea how to innovate or doing anything other than office games. Verizon is full of these id--ts

Wonderful post. I couldn't agree more. People quit whining and earn a honest day's pay.