Just wondering if I take LOA would I get unemployment I’m an older worker with most of the issues that can lead to complications and thinking of taking LOA instead of working to protect my health.... oh and let’s rap about it.
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Boeing is “essential” because they pay this state tons of taxes. This state acts like it cares about you with the lockdowns and such but it really doesn’t. Wake up people.
Pandemic:
Home > Inessential work
Home Potential Hazard
Nobody cares if Boeing was "deemed" essential because it's not. Not when air traffic is down 97% and the planes being "built" may or may not be delivered for years with some work being completely obsolete compared to Airbus. If the 777 is going downhill than nobody is going to want the X either, which only costs more money. The essential employees worked throughout the shutdown. The rest of us are just there to boost the budget. The majority of employees aren't doing anything important, so yeah I'm staying home. Not to mention they are stretching an hours worth of work into eight. Despicable.
@1twn+14WpLH0e Nobody choosing to stay home has vilified any one. There will always be inequalities and inequities despite whatever political nonsense you are talking about. There is more than one side to the sword. If someone can afford to stay home then let them do so in peace. If they are able to collect unemployment because being out of work due to the coronavirus then so be it. That is what it is meant for. Some of us don't want to take the risk, which mind you, is none of your concern. Additionally, the work is completely inessential, especially at this time. The Boeing factory is the most dangerous place to be right now. I advise anybody with a safety concern to go on a leave of absence. If you don't care, then that is your decision. Some people actually understand and appreciate the value and delicacy of life.
@1hfz+14WwKNJc Whhaaaaat? You dont like it when arguments of income inequality and benefits inequality are used against you. No way!
Think of all the people you have done that to and vilified over they years. Think of the countless numbers who have been vilified by the democratic party, just for having the skills (like you) to get a good job that allows you the flexibility to live a safe life.
Maybe consider that next time.
@pcm+14WpLH0e No it means lacking consideration, such as you are. Keep filling yourself full of assumptions you arrogant prick. You don't know what other people are doing let alone the potential risk they are avoiding. Like previously mentioned, look up the federal CARES act. If someone qualifies for unemployment then it is their benefit. There's no reason to be upset about that. Maybe you're willing to take the risk, but if others aren't comfortable doing so then you have no right to criticize them. So yes, worry about yourself. There's nothing selfish about that. It's called independence. You can't help anybody if you can't help yourself. You have a false perception. Fortune and misfortune will always be prevalent regardless of what you or I do. That's the way the world works.
@pcm+14 .....
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Pat yourself on the back there buddy!! You are AWESOME
"worry about yourself" the very definition of selfishness.
No, I have been out, wearing a mask, passing out food from the food bank 2 days a week. I have been at work 5 days a week, paying taxes, so there is money to help those less fortunate than me.
Hate is a strong word, disappointment is more accurate. You are able bodied, you have a home, you have savings, and you have a good job you can go back to when you finally DECIDE you want to.
And disappointment is better than what you are showing, indifference for those who dont have what you have. Believe it or not, Union employees are RICH compared to 90% of the country and 97% of the world.
Unions (that's read as liberals) talk a good game about income inequality. You know what is unequal, having a job where you can CHOOSE to stay home and still get to go back to it when you want to.
While you are in your cozy home, waiting to go back to your job, getting your medications with your insurance, I am actually out there doing something to help.
You make me sick.
@iwn+14WpLH0e Who are you to judge? How about you worry about yourself and stop saying the same thing over and over. The reasons you were given are completely valid. Quit disregarding them. Nobody is going to feel bad about protecting themselves and/or their family from this disease. The union has approved all absences in regards to safety. If they qualify for unemployment benefits than good for them. The difference is I'm not a hater like you.
You are right...the health of ONE IN FIVE Americans who have no health coverage. The safety of ONE IN FIVE americans who may be homeless soon. The health of ONE IN FIVE americans who dont know where their next meal will come from.or how they will get their medications.
You are damn right it's about health and safety. I guess these people dont matter to you when you are not pandering for thier votes.
Do what you gotta do OP
@kts+14WpLH0e Anybody who suffers has nothing to with someone's decision to stay home from a factory with around 30,000 employees in it not properly following social distancing guidelines. Being proud has nothing to do with it. You are starting to appaul me. This is about the health and safety of loved ones.
Keep being proud, make sure you have when you see the homeless families that didnt have a CHOICE by the side of the road.
@cpw+14WpLH0e What part about safety don't you understand? You think people are going to take the risk if they don't have to? No.
If someone qualifies for unemployment then they are not taking advantage of anything. Under the federal CARES act there are expanded unemployment benefits called Pandemic Unemployment Assistance. If you are living with someone who is high risk that is staying home for their safety then that alone can potentially qualify you to receive unemployment. People seem to underestimate the hazard of this.
ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE in this country are UNEMPLOYED! Most make less than 10/hr
Then theres you, you have a job, making more than double what most people make and you CHOOSE to stay home where others have no choice.
You supplement the unemployment with your savings while most are wondering where thier next meal is coming from.
Way to go, be proud of yourself.
@vba+14WpLH0e It's absolutely not selfish and wrong to care about the safety of your family. What is wrong is to attempt to ridicule those making the decision to stay home because they don't feel safe going to work in the middle of a pandemic. Nobody has to work right now if they are concerned about safety. Not unless you are one of the few truly essential employees which I doubt any of them would ever be on this site.
The way I understand it is that you don't qualify for unemployment because you're turning down work from your employer. They don't care if you're at-risk or uncomfortable with the safety protocol or lack thereof. It's different if you're caring for someone who has Covid or you have it, but being cautious and prudent doesn't count.
It's amazing how many people think this virus is all a ruse. It doesn't take a whole lot of research to prove otherwise, but most people don't seem willing to do it.
@gql+14WpLH0e I get it. But I still don't think it's right.
1 in 5 people, ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE do not have a job at all. Their employers closed, their employers laid them off due to lack of business, they HAVE NO JOB.
MEANWHILE, Boeing employees have first world problems. They actually have a job with a living wage, but they CHOOSE to stay home. I'm not saying it's not a good reason, this virus is no joke. But, you actually have a job if you want it. That is so different than the ONE IN FIVE people who don't have a job to go back to.
Its selfish and its wrong.
@gfp+14WpLH0e Normally you would be correct, but under the current circumstances of the pandemic those rules have become temporarily redundant.
I don't blame anybody for taking a leave of absence at this time. Especially when half of your co-workers aren't taking this seriously. And when they expect you to reuse disposable masks..
@goi+14WpLH0e it's not me making this up, it's the rules of the game
What are the reasons that I can be disqualified from receiving unemployment benefits?
- Quitting a job voluntarily without good cause connected with work.
- Being discharged/fired from work for just cause.
- Refusing an offer of suitable work for which the claimant is reasonably suited.
- Refusing a referral to a suitable job opportunity offered by the State employment service.
#3 is the one that matters. You are refusing suitable work.
Yes, you will qualify, although it may take a couple weeks depending on if it needs to adjudicated. I'm on LOA myself for the safety reasons. To me it is not worth the risk. Not for me or my family. Unemployment benefits are taken out of each and every one of your paychecks, so in reality it is your money in the first place and if you qualify for it then you certainly deserve it, so don't listen to the discouraging guy below me who thinks working and putting yourself and others at risk is better than staying safe. Do what is best for you. Again, you will qualify unless there is a technica Also, the state said they have an "overwhelming abundance of unemployment funds available". They've been taxing for decades. Not to mention this is exactly what it is meant for. There are no job search requirements at this time either. Stay blessed and stay safe. 🙏😷
If you are collecting unemployment because you are CHOOSING to stay home you do not deserve unemployment.
- e. you are not laid off and the factory is open for you to work.
If you are not able to work due to potential complications with COVID, then that qualifies as a disability and should be handled through SS Disability, not reemployment.
The Grass is cleaner on the other side. You Guys have no clue how good you have it at Boeing until you taste bring on the street.
I don't doubt that people on LOA are collecting unemployment, however, I do not believe it is right, nor do I believe it is in the spirit of what unemployment was meant for.
One of the requirements of unemployment is that you look for a job. If you find a job and you choose not to take it, you can lose your unemployment eligibility.
As Boeing employees HAVE a job and are CHOOSING to take an LOA, they are turning down work and therefore should not be getting unemployment.
As silly as it may be, there are tons of Americans that are ACTUALLY unemployed, 14.7% is the number but it is estimated to be closer to 20%. That is a TON of people who would do anything to have a job to pay the bills, they would go into Boeing with or without PPE to get paid. I personally would not, but ai would not expect to get unemployment either.
If you are comfortable taking unemployment dollars that could be used to support those less fortunate that we are to have a job that pays well, you have to live with that. I would not do it. And I never have.
Better take your leave if your health is failing, sitting at home or better yet sailing. Sipping on brew making homemade stew...... lol