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It's also a really short sighted plan, unless they expect the government in those countries to keep them poor people doing middle class jobs are going to expect a middle class standard of life and security. That either means emigration or that those countries have to be less unequal and more prosperous. Look at eastern Europe for a good example. Was poor but with a good education system, built up a big tech experience and talent and now want German level standards and so are to expensive so sap have to start finding the next cheap place to go, leaving a trail of wrecked lives in it's wake.
"Why do you think third world country = low quality"
For some roles that don't require much qualification or experience it doesn't.
For particular roles it's close to impossible to find good candidates in some countries. It depends. :)
I can tell you from personal experience that some regions maybe cheap but are limited in terms of expertise and candidates so moving to cheaper locations doesn't guarantee success - cost saving and good quality work is not always possible.
Why do you think third world country = low quality?
They assume they can let go of people and cut costs by replacing with third world country resources. What they don’t know is they will soon suffer from poor quality and the consequences will follow
@1lgw+1s0cpMdm - Concur has been decimated in the UK - they have been, informally, made aware. Not sure if the same model applies global but I would hope for the best and plan for the worst.
NA employee here Concur, would like to start hearing something. I wonder if NA Concur hit hard and don't want to wonder.
Being at SAP is career su----e. If you are good, go to a smaller tech company or even a startup. You will be amazed at how fast other companies move and innovate.
SAP is even bad at firing employees. What was i thinking joining such a miserable company! Tech giant ... LOL ... more like tech dinosaur
This upcoming Monday in America should be quite the spectacle...
60 day payroll plus severance. Whether you have access still as an employee for those 60 days or are immediately shown the door but kept on payroll for 60 days is TBD.
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Managers were notified of the VERP offer in the US the day the offer went to the employee.
No clue how much they know about the rumored/impending RIFs... they need to be on calls with the employee, I suppose, so if they don't know about them today, they will know about them on Monday. That said, I'd imagine they know about them. They may not have had any say in it, but I'd say they know who is getting RIF'd by now...
is it 60 days payroll plus severence ?
how is it implemented last year?
With WARN, the 60 days could be implemented in 2 ways. Either let you stay for 60 days at the company (permissions reduced so you can basically just do job search) or keep you on payroll while all access is removed.
Any idea if this an immediate termination or they will be giving sometime like last year for the last day?
Dear colleagues,
When will you understand that Microsoft did take over our company ? Check every new manager is an « ex Microsoft » and they apply the same kind of management .
SAP is dead . We are Microsoft . Soon acquired ?
“ Were managers consulted this time around versus last the random fire from 2023?”
Not consulted and not performance related… my feeling … if age > 55 … sort excel by salary
Offer VERP
Were managers consulted this time around versus last the random fire from 2023?
Does the manager know the list of people already?
Seriously I don’t care what they do. Layoffs so what!!! I just want some clarity.
It is insane keeping employees like this months long!!!
North America starts next Monday the 15th, managers are already briefed that they'll need to take action in the coming week.
US will get thousands of cuts in the following weeks.
I would guess -- based on my reading of the tea leaves as I put my thumb in the air -- is some colleagues will be invited to meetings with their managers today or Monday. To be honest with you, though, I am hearing that A LOT of those who were offered the VERP are taking it. I don't know if that will have any impact on who will be laid off (I mean... someone has to be left in the US to actually do some work... nothing gets done anywhere else!) but it may.
I know... the waiting is the hardest part. Hang in there everyone. Unfortunately, even if you don't hear today or Monday, I fear that this waiting/anticipated/dreading will just go on and on and on in the US.
... life at SAP in the year 2024.
Good luck.
Some won't know until 2025 https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/10/sap_job_cuts/
There not clueless, they have a master plan, to offshore everything to desperate people in third world countries who have incompetent governments that means they will remain poor so that they can pretend to have a better profit margins and cause the stock price to rise. The problem is it only works short term until those employees start to rightfully demand an European standard of life and they have to start finding employees in even more desperate situations. But I expect to never see a single exec who isn't based in Germany or the USA who doesn't have some kind of geographic role.
The problem is it's not the employees costing the company but the stupid amount of "run simple" manual procedures and incesent paperwork and form filling that ki-ls productivity. If the execs could stop bringing officials in poor countries or discrimination against whistle blowers we might be able to strip it back to actually running simple a cloud native high performance organisation that doesn't need cheap accountancy tricks to turn a reasonable profit
For the US, some think today or Monday. Either option destroys any real enjoyment of the upcoming weekend!
The utter disregard for “At -Risk” employees, coupled with the ineptitude on display during this BS “process” is appalling. It is just one example of how this current executive board are running SAP into the ground,
I give it five years before the asset sales begin. To reiterate: THEY ARE CLUELESS!