Thread regarding Shell Oil layoffs

We need better transparency

It feels like upper management doesn’t trust us with basic information, which is ridiculous. Instead of working together, it’s like we’re kept in the dark and told to just follow orders. It's really hard to keep yourself motivated when everything feels so top-down and defensive.

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@js "Most likely wrong to be altered?" What does that even mean?

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@kf

How can Shell leadership show they're for human decency? Equality is not an issue that Shell should concerns themselves with except for ensuring they're not discriminating against staff and potential hires on the basis of race, s-x, religion, age, etc... Shell leadership has to be allowed to make workforce restructuring decisions based on what might be best for the future of Shell.

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Post ID: @m0+1jzwrybww

it’s absolutely amazing how i can instantly tell which posters are from india based on how authoritarian and hierarchical they talk

there are no equals to them and there is no human decency - there are only castes

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Post ID: @kf+1jzwrybww

@g0

When you have a multi year streak of enabling grifting, saying the company values efficiency and actually getting there are two different things. We have a deep culture built on politics and less so on technical expertise. We are in the second round of Musical Chairs. Bad managers are going to pull the chair out from under the good technical staff because they are inherently at odds with each other. I’m afraid that even though these layoffs are to drive efficiency, we will become even more siloed, the good people will leave or be demotivated, etc. These problems started 5-10 years ago and they will persist for a long while.

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Post ID: @jw+1jzwrybww

Maybe we just need to have the social justice workers step back from hiring, firing and promotions decisions. It'd be great if shell looked for the best person fr the job. Everybody knows decisions altered by race, religion, s-x, or age are most likely wrong to be altered; so, people hide that. The lack of transparency is to hide the injustice.

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@fn+1jzwrybww

Shell was well meaning in how they went about recruiting from colleges in the last 20 years but that does not mean, if the world changes, continue to behave the same. They are one of largest corporations in the world and it makes sense that organizational bloat sets in over time and causes staff to value bureaucracy and social capital over productivity. Wael and the executive team is signaling to the employees and shareholders that they want to prioritize productivity moving forward. That starts with the high cost staff in the corporate center where outsourcing and automation is likely to provide cost savings while having minimal disruption to the operations of the business. I believe the executive team will not have any problem finding staff in US/UK/NL/CA that spend majority of their time networking/pushing social issues over brainstorming on ways to increase revenue/reduce costs. The company will be better off once those people move on from Shell.

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@c9+1jzwrybww

There's a difference between white collar work that should be considered labor and what majority of white collar work has become in much of western societies today. It's pretty clear that it's become a way to provide young adults who are able to use connections or a college degree a way to secure office jobs that has very little to do with the actual operations of the business. This was necessary at one point because majority of the tasks that the support functions worked on were completed manually and business process outsourcing was not reliable. Today this doesn't seem to be the case but we still as western societies allow for what's called the surplus elites. Their jobs can be automated or outsourced to low cost countries. Also the surplus elites are not as skilled in their chosen discipline, so provide no real value for these organizations anymore.

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@be+1jzwrybwwm

being offended by someone using the word labor is really weird dude.

riddle me this - why are are office workers protected by labor laws if office work is not labor? do doctors and pilots do labor?

very weird hill to die on…

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@bw+1jzwrybww

what HR staff? it’s all contractors in the philippines for bottom dollar who can’t be bothered to answer tickets. soon it will all just be a chat bot.

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Post ID: @c8+1jzwrybww

Firetruck starts with F and ends with U-K
Shell is like that in communication. You think you're getting firetrucked... but without the iretr in the middle.
What company do you know of that is as transparent as you are asking for?
if management told some of the stuff then the rumor mill would have everyone knowing... like the secret BP deal.

Here's another secret: HR is not your ally. HR is only there to minimize the amount Shell pays out. Is HR staffing up or down? Their numbers are staying high so they can process people out by the firetruck load.

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@bb+1jzwrybww

Do you think most white collar workers are "labor"? Is that the conclusion you came to after observing people work on offshore rigs and onshore oil and gas fields?

Very few white collar workers should be classified as labor. Most are networkers and feminist that want to be treated as the elite. They look down on real labor.

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@b5+1jzwrybww

lmao found the manager. hey back to work slaves! i will only speak to you if it’s an email to tell you you’re fired. a meeting would use far too many resources. it’s your fault for not saving peasant! it’s us VIP stakeholders who determine what to do, and not the labor that actually does it, that matters.

youll get an outstanding rating for that one im sure. do you have a boot flavored dessert to follow up that post?

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Post ID: @bb+1jzwrybww

@aw+1jzwrybww

Only 20% of an organization's employees are important stakeholders that deserve transparent conversations. The other 80% should just save/invest their money and spend as if they only made 30%-40% of their current salary. Management only cares about the employees that can help them substantially increase revenues or reduce costs. Every other employee is an operating expense on the income statement that the executives hope they can permanently remove.

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Post ID: @b5+1jzwrybww

@a3+1jzwrybww

i’m pretty sure that we are the honest ones and the entire thread is about asking management to be as well. maybe you had a different idea

anyway it’s hilarious to me that the anti immigrant billionaires running our government love outsourcing to india and abusing H1B

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Post ID: @aw+1jzwrybww

I think they just literally don’t have a plan

clueless

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Post ID: @ah+1jzwrybww

Shell staff needs to be more honest with themselves about the future of white collar work in the US/UK/NL/CA. The writings on the wall.

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Post ID: @a3+1jzwrybww

Did you watch The Red Wedding episode in Game of Thrones? Lack of transparency and distractions are the name of the game when you're about to gut someone.

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