Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I use snapchat and tiktok. The oldie I work with is still using myspace.

@rf There it is if you have to ask that question " what are we going to talk about Daddy" you have a communication problem.. There is allot to be learned old from young and young from old. you never stop learning. Some need to start Learning
Herny Ford qoute
" Anyone who stops learning is old wether you are twenty or eighty. Anyone who keeps learning stays young"

@sp boomerang do ya thang

@rf+1jzx2788f

Many younger folks, especially "men", are nowadays simply f@t, slobby, X-box/Nintendo/Playstation, lazy, tattoo looser. I'm almost sixty and am pretty sure could kick the cr@p out of most bovine youngsters on my team easily. This is our future? F@t and lazy. I will probably outlive most of them also, as they live off of fast food and weed.

do not talk, please do the work young man!!

Does anyone else see the irony of the fact that most jobs at Cisco require communication and therefore communications skills? The lack of both is why Cisco ended up with so many routing and switching operating systems riddled with bugs and massively duplicated code. That garbage code was written by young and old alike.

@rf

What we gonna talk about, daddy? nothing.

wtf are you going to talk about??.. do not talk, please do the work young man!! make Cisco/Patel great again :-)

Anyone over 60 is too costly to insure health-wise ( especially if they have a spouse and kids). The company is trying to bring down the average age of employees to attract more younger folks. These younger dudes, myself included don't like to deal with older heads. What we gonna talk about, daddy? nothing.

Nope, I have been hired twice as a 60+ at Cisco and I did not know any of the people making the hiring decision. Guess I’ve been fortunate for people to see me for more than my age.

@ma

younger employees

whats wrong with them? may be they want new tools, new Go/Rust etc? Cisco software may be stuck in 1980s... I am sure everyone was younger at one time in their life.. yeah..

Of course they need 60+ year old employees, specially if you can deal with whinny sn-t nose spoil younger employees

@f8 be nice.. he is Patel's father/mon/auntie/etc... may be they are going to code in FORTRAN or COBOL like someone said in other thread..

@f1 really after 20year gap in coding? csco is really a great place to work huh..

I was just hired at age 61 last year after 20 year gap, worked at Cisco 96-01,

Even if this person gets hired, he/she/it will become a target and end up as a row in a layoff spreadsheet before too long.

I think unless you've got top talent or know someone well you'd be lucky to be hired/re-hired at 50+ age in my experience there...

The teams are now mostly all young, with younger management, who'll look at you as some sort of old dinosaur they'd need to work with....

Waste of time even applying in my experience...

This is presented from the perspective of software at the "software company" but the same principles apply for other disciplines.

I keep asking every year or two, is it age discrimination to replace a 60+ Engineer 4 with a kid who attained the equivalent title at a competitive company three years out of college where the kid lead real development and the 60+ only moved bug reports to terminal states for decades?

The way I see it is you have two ways to get in:

1. You represent rare top talent that justifies the inevitable high price
2. Kids have finally awakened to the fact that Cisco is doing the equivalent of maintaining 40 year old COBOL and old COBOL equivalent programmers are all that will take the job

The irony is I know many 60+ who took option 2 at other legacy companies where they still get to do far more development than those at Cisco. That flips the question from why would Cisco want you to why do you want Cisco?

I know of at least 6 in my org just off top of my head

It's not what you know, it's who you know.

Part of that question would have to include how they previously exited. Were they labeled 'eligible for re-hire' or did they put everyone on blast on the way out the door? Cisco is not known for not offering jobs to anyone but cheap/healthy recent grads, the insurance and salary requirements are much lower, unless you have a specialty they require ASAP.

Good question for 60+ someone who might have joined Cisco.