More cuts are coming. Email received today on the Concur Technical Support side .
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Lost in all this drama is the negative impact on SAP customers and the implementation and maintenance partners. SAP’s g-n in the mouth sales tactics and hidden costs are being exposed by market analysts (Morningstar for example).
Another analyst study found a 58% cost increase for ECC customers adopting RISE.
No amount of product excellence will allow us to recover from the damage being inflicted on customers and partners.
S4 Grow needs to work if these layoffs are to subside. Pay attention to Grow executive title changes. As “she” works to distance herself from her failures.
Many colleagues left today as part of their separation process
They had those EPSC roles
Many were very tenured, but didn't add value
I had a question from a customer about one of these resources
"What is XXXX really do? He goes to our meetings but doesn't help us and cannot help us"
How did we get here?
But they promised no more!!! Empty promises :(
The layoffs occurred in the US. I am on a team with people I know impacted. Concur Technical support Public Sector. All kinds of consolidation and shifts of roles and some being sunsetted. Private and Public sector. What a long last few days. Remains to be seen if new opportunities will arise from this as they are saying. . New Fed contract coming in two years.
Ugh! So painful. Part of Concur Technical Support. The execution with this one was awful and made us wait a few days before telling us. After two years of this, so over it.
If you are not informed about the customer success meeting (Manos and Jan’s team) in N.A. planned for this week - check Glassdoor or your colleagues. Any email with the sentiment “those impacted will be treated respectfully” means only one thing.
@h3+1jthhh0s7 nah for you special treatment, it is 10 days a week in the office. that's after your landlord kicks you out and you move out 200 miles from the office. or you declare bankruptcy, sell and move out to a desert. If what you are saying is true, maybe you can fly a private jet to and from the office 10 days a week on your $250,000 USD+ a year salary. your kids don't matter (if you have life for them) and you think your work colleagues are your best friends (when you wouldn't personally hang out with them outside your 9-5 because half of them probably don't like you for micromanaging their office attendance).
TLDR you sound like a miserable person to work with.
You're a manager? I have a joke.
What do you call a SAP manager who has recently registered for a SAP event?
A registered s-x offender.
@h3+1jthhh0s7 Yes, and maybe they should ask me to go and clean the toilets to, wear pink tomorrow and spend my hard earned money on $10 coffee, eating out to support those small Cafes for a $20 sandwich, and continue to pay peanuts when house prices and mortgages have outstripped everyone's wages. But it sounds like you are upset that you don't work for me instead, but do enjoy your 6-day office mandate talking to the water cooler and your imaginary office friends after a 3 hour commute. You know, because you genuinely care about the "culture", "collaboration", "communication" and "infused innovation" enough to do it.
You should also be afraid that white collar workers are beginning to unionize and strike for better working conditions. Something that was typically only reserved for blue collar workers. They are seeing their friends getting laid off on mass and don't care anymore quite frankly. If they fire me so be it, Oracle and competitors also have remote jobs open.
I am also a manager and it disgusts me that somebody in such a high and responsible position would spend their time on anonymous internet message boards supporting a rebellious attitude. We all worked in the office before the pandemic and there's no reason that we can't return to the office now. It looks to me that some of you are spoiled and entitled. Grow up and do better.
@cj+1jthhh0s7 I'm a manager and I don't enforce it...and I never will. Because it is not up to the board/leaders to tell me how I should manage my team members. As long as my KPIs are met, and my colleague's KPIs are met, as long as the company is making money/saving money that's all that matters. Because if I do, I know half my team would resign.
It's disgusting what SAP has become:
- A cost cut company
- Making bonuses harder to achieve
- Layoffs every 3 months
- Reduced travel and spending budgets
- This new weed out culture
- Targeting boomers to VERP
- Changes in leadership every 6 months
- Ruling by fear
- TRUMP-style office mandates to drive attrition
- Price gouging lawsuits.
@em+1jthhh0s7 10,000 is an indicative number. There is no maximum theoretical limit to which people can get laid off. He can announce that a further 10,000 people will go, and a further 10,000 of you will be replaced with low cost locations tomorrow. If it helps him secure another term after 2030, and if it jacks up the price of SAP stocks. Or if there is a recession. So far, this is the WORST time to be looking for a job, due to fraudulent job advertisements made to make the company look like it's growing when it's sinking.
@ek+1jthhh0s7 Don't believe the lie that office attendance boosts collaboration and innovation locally otherwise they wouldn't be outsourcing this to SAP Labs India. This is a forced resignation move.
More cuts, more sackings, when will it end? Seems like the tech sector and all its glory has been relegated to one of the worst jobs you can ever enter and work in. There are so many fake ghost jobs, countless job repostings and now a crack down on office mandates to force attrition. What a s*** time to work at SAP.
In 2024 there were many more layoffs than 3000 - read the integrated report and investor call transcripts. It was closer to 10k.
An email just came out advising Concur technical support that changes will be announced on Thursday in a meeting and some people will be impacted. Then some nonsense about treating those impacted respectfully.
Imagine losing your job on stupid technicalities because they want to quiet fire. I am sorry it’s despicable.
@cj+1jthhh0s7 Discriminatory sacking of people refusing RTOs is going to open a can of lawsuits if they're using it and enforcing it unfairly and only on certain people.
Layoffs for Concur technical support where? I'm in the AMER region and no such email was received. I hate when people post stuff with no details. It does more harm than good.
they r also doubling down on things like rto policies to weed people out. some managers were not enforcing it but they are trying to make us.
They planned 10k layoffs last year and so far have only layed off 3k. 7k more to go. Is the CEO a wolf in sheeps clothing? I hope not.