Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Has anyone yet posted G2 comment about " Conform to AI or GO" the outsude should really see how this ship is tanking


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@bq truth

think this one through. esp the bit about Cisco forcing you to use their internal AI tools so that they can replace you.

why else would they want employees to do this? it is to train their models.

You are training the robot that will take your job, fools

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Post ID: @p9+1k448tkw7

Using AI is like being forced to work with the boss's kid who keeps sc--wing everything up, and you're not allowed to complain.

'prompt engineering' is a manufactured term allowing people to feel smart as they endlessly waste time trying to come up with the magical combination of words to get the AI to do what they want.

AI agents & super agents have to be created b/c AI can't do too much at once...must modularize it, where every layer has a substantial hallucination risk.

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Post ID: @mg+1k448tkw7

@eb Based on how quickly Chuckie is promoting him, despite a total lack of positive results, he’s unfortunately got a long runway.

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Post ID: @ec+1k448tkw7

The ONLY person benefiting from AI themes is G2 himself. He is minting money keeping the AI candle alive & burning…. before he falls off the cliff or is pushed out.

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Post ID: @eb+1k448tkw7

Generative AI has a hallucination problem.
Relying on it makes real engineers more valuable, not less. AI will eliminate the classic H1-b filler roles first, not going to replace experts.

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Post ID: @dw+1k448tkw7

Every time you use those tools you are giving them your creative information and providing them with information so that you can be replaced and now AI can help you out of that job. STOP! using the internal tools. Its just a gathering expedition of that critical knowledge each of us have. Combined information they gather they think the AI will work more efficiently without you......

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Post ID: @dk+1k448tkw7

G2 and Cisco are followers. Not leaders. This is what followers do. Blindly do what everyone else is doing without any idea if it is really has the ROI. FOMO is real

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Post ID: @cj+1k448tkw7

Find the article - MIT report: 95% of generative AI pilots at companies are failing. There is no proven ROI and usage of it except of the hype and growing bubble. They spent a lot on it and keep spending and forcing people to use it to show and prove wasted funds.
Klarna kicked out a lot for the AI hype, and it failed and they rehire people back. It will be the same here, only they will hire more in India. Nvidia is milking nicely all these big techs. Small companies which adapt it and implement more quickly will win the game, and they will be sold to comapnies like this, and they will not know what to do with this and more layoffs will come, but still no meaninfull integration to exisiting products.

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Post ID: @ch+1k448tkw7

AI will be like the web..."old" companies will just fumble with it the new tech and pretend they understand what is happening when in fact it is just a meme to promote their stock

the companies that understand it and correctly integrate it in to their processes will be younger and smaller

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Post ID: @bw+1k448tkw7

The relentless push for Cisco employees to use the AI tools (Bridgit, Circuit, next nonsense tool...) is based on simple principles:

TL/DR: Employees are needed to train the models. You are creating the system that they will use to justify firing you.

  1. The company waited too long and overinvested in the late-stage AI LLM bubble. the $28 billion Splunk purchase left them vulnerable and they decided that all in is the only way to go.
  2. The AI foundations are brittle and require new data sources to artificially prop up the collapse.
  3. The push into AI infrastructure is setting Cisco up for intense pain. This is the least profitable, most intensely competitive slice of the AI Pie. Nvidia earns 80% of the profits, Cisco and everyone else fights over the rest.
  4. Nvidia is winning in networking and does not need Cisco. Nvidia wisely built bespoke networking kit and now Cisco is hemorrhaging market share and margin.
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Post ID: @bq+1k448tkw7

Night of the Long Knives; 2025

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Post ID: @bd+1k448tkw7

All companies are making the same mistakes with AI right now: Over-investing, claiming LRs are due to AI efficiency gains, struggling to connect it to useful data, and failing to deliver any actual useful change. The degree of hype and pace of adoption has been a great lesson on influential marketing, at a global scale. There is just too massive difference between the imagined future state and realistic future state.

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Post ID: @bc+1k448tkw7

Despite his prodding, I see almost no functional use of AI in software dev at Cisco.

Every dev team I have been on at Cisco is working at least a decade behind the state of the art. Some teams haven't even discovered AWS yet.

Cisco isn't diving deeper into exploiting better tech, its moving deeper into exploiting cheap labor in Bangalore.

All the same mistakes made but at least they are cheaper.

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