Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Save ford land real estate therefore saves bill ford and family.

@e4 Correct, nothing stopped me from doing that. Seems like you took my opinion a little personally lol

@ft you need to have a rotation in an emergency room filled with patients dying of covid. That was my last job before this, but I'm not complaining that everyone should work in the same conditions as me.

Getting tired of all the entitled whiners complaining about having to actually report to work! You all need a rotation in an assembly plant so that you can realize how good you have it!

Why did companies adopt cubicles?

Why did companies adopt working remotely pre-CIVID?

There must have been studies saying these practices improved productivity and lowered cost.

This argument was settled years ago. Expert studies have proven that employees returning to the office positively improves a company's bottom line.

DF even mentioned this and the benefits of collaboration in one of his All-hands meetings in the past.

@d7 If a good drive is stress relieving for you...how about you go out to your driveway and go drive around for a bit? Nothing has stopped you for the entirety of WFH.

Massive step backwards. Very disappointed in our CEO.

@OP Potential for lower morale and increased stress from commuting and rigid schedules

Probably unpopular, but though I find it more stressful while running behind, I tend to need the structure and a good drive is stress relieving for me rather than inducing. I like cars, so it tends to be fun for me, so not so much a con.

What about the people that don't show up until 9:30-10am because they want to put their kids on the bus. Then they take off at 3:30pm to pick them up at school. That's the pre covid work life balance they had.... so much for that I guess. Will see what happens there.

If they now want to treat salaried like prisoners, demand you stay logged on in a Ford building for 8 hours; well 8 hours you will get. There will be no evening or weekend work. If you want more than 40 hours, well you will need to pay overtime. Hmmm wonder how long it will take until they install old fashioned paper punch in time cards.

Ford will be getting less out of me, no doubt. Can’t concentrate in a call center style office. And once my laptop is shut after 8 hours in the office, it will not be turned on again until the following morning in the office. Hope this is what they wanted.

There are no "pros" or "cons", or at least, none that matter to the C-suite. The C-suite doesn't care about our contributions. There are willingly transfering American white collar jobs to LCCs. For them, the idea of saving a few dollars here and there, allowing them to get millions of dollars in bonuses, is the most important thing, even if the future of the company suffers. Haven't you heard Fartley talking about "his new ride"? They are not even driving Ford vehicles, so they don't care if the vehicles we produce catch fire or break in the middle of the highway.

The issue is simple for most employees: RTO or find another job. Take into consideration that there are no guarantees that RTO will prevent layoffs. So be aware that we are all in "borrowed time" at FMC. Milk Ford all you want, but have a plan B ready.

So riddle me this, how is all this random "happen stance" collaboration supposed to happen when they are monitoring how many times our computers time out? Can't be chained to a laptop when we are supposed to be wandering about the office collaborating in the hallways. They want it both ways.

@b9 Were you unable to collaborate successfully for the four years of WFH?

I am excited to begin 3 days a week for all employees starting officially this month and 4 later this summer. Finally will get to see my other team members that usually do not show to the office regularly.

Regularly is the key word here, everyone's schedules will be aligned now which makes collaboration more effective.

@ab more or less my point. Ford gets less out of me in the long run… people quitting means their work is dumped on others with no support…

Pro: easier for layoffs. Take your badge and laptop and escort you out instead of having to arrange for shipping.

One of our worst launches was Explorer / Aviator in 2020, which was, drum roll, pre WFH. I don't think RTO vs WFH is as much problem as either incompetence, apathy, or the breakdown of basic disciplines like not having stuff be junk at a milestone.

But I guess I'll drive in and watch the LLs chat with each other via webex from buildings less than a half mile apart from each other, modeling that actual in person discussion is unimportant, and it only matters that you generated 80 lbs of CO2 that day instead sitting in traffic.

Pros:

• I will hate driving in so much I might buy a fun car to make it less miserable
• yolo'ing some better noise canceling headphones to block out the loud talkers
• laptop is getting closed at quitting time
• so many more opportunities waste time talking sportsball with people I have no desire to talk to about things I have no desire to talk about
• getting to update my retention document to say "would leave in a heartbeat for remote work"

Cons:

• no more gym or bike rides at lunch, as Dearborn is a car centric hole, particularly around campus
• the sustainability report
• constant distraction from anyone in a 40' radius loud talking into a microphone 1" from their face
• have to go to Kohl's to get another shirt

some of your pros actually a cons, and cons greatly overweight pros,

Very well done. I retired three years ago. This mess was created by senior management. Back when COVID first hit The Furniture guy stated in a webex (slash town hall) that we would never return to the office. This was followed up by again senior management that you can move out of state if you were given the ok by your team leader. Let's be honest I recall before COVID people were on WEBEX not sitting in a conference room. I never had an issue to support a build or a sign-off. But to tell me that this makes us more creative is pure BS. In 2022 before I retired some EINSTEIN of a VP stated our warranty was caused by working from home. Yeah except the vehicles on those recalls were primarily Pre-COVID. So Albert explain that one????
They were on that list because of "POOR DECISIONS" to save a buck.
Again as I said most people have no issue to support a build or a sign-off. Along with the fact there are no longer desk or any privacy to be able to concentrate on something. I think until that facet is addressed the quality of work will be down.