- parking
- lack of space
- spending 5 bil dollars in facilities
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@d4+1k2nq31hr "and my desk was right on the other side of the trim mixer coming out of Paint Shop"
You had a desk!!!! That's one of the issues we have to contend with daily. No assigned desks. Not even a POS desk at the other side of the trim mixer.
My first desk at Ford was in conference room because nothing was ready for me, even when I waited 2 months already to start at FMC. Still, I knew where each of my coworkers sit, and I could reach out to them for any question. Something impossible to do now. I had been officially assigned to 3 different buildings and had worked temporarily in 2 additional ones before Covid-19 hit. One of them it was a slum, another was hot in summer and freezing in winter. And I went to each of them whenever was needed, minimum 5 days a week without complaints. So don't give me that "hard times" BS. Save it for the impressionable FCGs.
@hn they don't see "not enough desks" as a flow. They see it is as part of the "transformation." Look at this post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ford-land_weareford-fordland-workplacedesign-activity-7234583044525805571-Zzr9
Every bench, couch, and chair is counted as a "collaborative workspace" and sold to the executives as having room for everybody. If you are an engineer and have to work from the couch with nowhere to put your mouse for CAD programs, I guess they just want you to quit and go to GM.
@br Did their jobs? Like standing up and defending their position with numerical data? Pathetic eunuchs is more like it.
Shhhh, don't let Ford land or Kumar hear you say that!
Consider that the vehicle development cycle is about 5 years Most of the recalls you’re seeing are on vehicles that were designed in the pre-COVID era. That actually undermines your point.
they need to think of the RTO debacle w/ not enough desks and parking as a flawed vehicle launch, right? facilities, ford land... i wonder if all the people who knew how to run buildings retired during covid or something. or got hit in the last round of buyouts / layoffs.
@e3, We were very effective. That was back in the early 1990s. Ford was still the top dog in trucks back then and the Broncos and F150s were pretty good vehicles.
Now get back to working 4 (measly) days a week in your overcrowded office. Have a nice day!
@cn Our LLS cannot even keep the news of unfair bonus a secret, remember 54%? What else should we expect from this sad bunch of id--ts.
@d4 "My first job at Ford was as part of the Q-Press team at MTP. This team was a group of engineers who addressed design issues on the vehicles". You and your team were highly effective, HUH? Wish you would have moved on sooner!
@d9+1k2nq31hr When the crisis forced everyone to work at home, reports indicated that productivity improved. However, it seems that these productivity improvements were similar to everything being green in product development - just smoke and mirrors. Just look at the results of the last 5 years - recalls and limited product in showrooms. Granted, it is primarily the result of poor leadership and not GSRs, but I can't see how anyone can brag about how productive they have been. Most of your "productivity" has gone in the trash.
Yep, then the brilliant scientists of 'leadership' and ford land mandate nobody has their own desk or space. My building has zero place to put anything else you are breaking the rules. So everything you have to take with you at the end of the day.
Show us the data that says this baloney hotel-ing and RTO is superior. Or are you chicken? (yes I am talking to you JF KG DF and ford land)
@d4 Look, all respect due to you for working in such conditions, but it’s just not necessary any more.
Did you enjoy working in the rafters? If someone told you that it were possible for you to do your job just as effectively from the comfort of your home, would you say “No, I’d prefer my desk at the end of the trim line?”
Here is what really bothers me. All these decades it was necessary for office workers to commute to depressing office buildings in order to do their job. Then, the technology comes along that allows much of this work to be done from anywhere in the world with no appreciable loss in productivity. In fact, Ford starts taking advantage of it. Jobs within our teams are shipped to low cost countries, turning most teams into a mix of geographically separated team members.
Then, along comes a “crisis” that forces all employees whose job isn’t location dependent to work from home. And not only do we execute successfully, but Ford even reveals that productivity seems to have improved. Many of us are finally liberated from time ki-ling commutes and soul crushing office buildings. Everyone is happy.
Then one day, against the overwhelming wishes of nearly everyone, CEOs decide that everyone must return to the office. And when we ask why, the best answers we get are “we have all these empty buildings” and “Collaboration,” neither of which hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. Our Ford CEO even said he talked to the other CEOs, including the universally despised CEO of Amazon! Talk about tone deaf.
So now we have 10s of 1000s of people commuting again to sit in buildings and do the same thing they were doing before. They’re spending more of their time and money - to do what they know isn’t necessary - to get their job done.
So yeah, people are complaining. It’s stupid, wasteful and deceitful. They might as well have sp-t in our faces.
LL Bonus’ tied to RTO numbers. This has nothing to do with productivity/teamwork.
An executive leadership team that can not deliver a RTO with full control of resources, how can we expect them to deliver next generation vehicle platforms and manufacturing. RTO implementation is a comedy of errors
No need for any justification aside from what people already know. Why post here? If you know you know. Pointless exercise.
They need to move more people into the glorious train station and make it five days a week RTO!
Let's be taking pictures of all the RTO problems and be sharing them with managers, HR, internal forums. Let's inundate company's chats with what hinders and slows our daily work.
We can complain here that much, but let's make the elephant be visible.
Ford land and management = massive epic fail
Just one example....their insistence that hotel free address seating is the one all be all for collaboration, especially with 4 days in office! I see it as more a half ash lazy way out for these bu mms to not do the work of a proper office layout.
They are terrible.
My experience is - they did their jobs…but some executive dimwit (Farley) said do it anyway. Unfortunately, Farley is an insecure man-child who doesn’t know what to do about the state of the company and believes people working at home are somehow to blame…or at least if they were all under the thumb with max face time at the office, things will improve. He’s been fixated on RTO for YEARS…despite an avalanche of data that clearly indicates people are HAPPIER and MORE PRODUCTIVE with the flexibility of working from home.
They count every chair in the building as part of the capacity. Chair in the lobby for visitors? Counts! Couch by the coffee machine? Counts!
FL is a joke. This RTO is a comedy tour. Massive flop. Bringing people together to complain about being there. No work is getting done. Still waiting for this crystal clear data JF says exists…
Parking structures built before buildings
PDC weed garden
No plan to coordinate RTO with Hub opening
Failure to recognize hotel long doesn't work when everyone is mandated to be in office 4. OR MORE days
Not to mention The Hub has been under a instruction since 2019. In the meantime, the Skunk works team has already purchased, refurbished and opened 2buildings in half the time.
Ford Land is a failure
Why? This can go and usually does go at least 2 ways. Failure to follow written established procedures. Yes folks. There are ABET accredited programs that do offer courses in "Plant Layout and Facility Design". There are consultants as well. All kinds guidelines and "PROVEN"CALCULATIONS for parking lot layouts, traffic flow, pedestrian flow and queuing, lighting requirements, office space configurations, break room, restroom panning exist. So, either these tools were ignored, or the "tools" that were supposed to use them did not. Have you noticed a severe degradation in results/outputs by many companies lately? G-I-G-O (Garbage In, Garbage Out). More companies, especially Ford need to take out the trash. Literally! Do the MATH. So who is in charge of the Industrial Engineering Group. Who FAILED to utilize this group if they exist? Let me guess , uh..uh..? Or is it DUH...DUH? GIGO!
Are they a former Apple Cobbler? Then yes, they should be fired.