The world is more unpredictable and dangerous than ever, yet corporate America is dragging people back into offices. At a time when safety, flexibility, and family should come first, pulling people farther from home makes no sense. If something were to happen, being close to loved ones and communities matters most. Forcing rigid return-to-office policies isn’t leadership — it’s reckless. Real leadership means empathy, foresight, and moving forward, not clinging to broken traditions. When does the next pulse survey go out?
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for me, personally, hybrid is fine. Would rather do 3 days every other week than 3 days every week. We've been doing 2 days every other week and it had to be Tues, Weds, Thur.
One teammate does M/Tues for childcare which is cool too.
Anyway, I personally, am happy with hybrid and will glide to retirement in next 2 years.
So taking a pay cut for home base is acceptable.
Glad you agree! Now it's just a question of how much of a cut
@12v you basically said it. When we went WFH, child care, gas, and food savings made up for the raises that didn’t keep up with inflation. Even the raises for receiving a Leading (now, a 5) didn’t make it worth even trying to figure out how to get one next year. It was an ACCEPTABLE trade off, for the MOMENT.
Now that we are faced with RTO, it’s yet another hit to wages that are already behind. That’s why we protest RTO.
I'd take a pay cut if I could get rid of my daycare bill
@126
Maybe the employees that think we should all be in the office would be more tolerante of WFH if there was a pay cut. At least there would be a justification for any perceived lack of service from employees that aren't in the office.
@10j
I think it only sounds ridiculous to you because you don't like it.
Companies have felt like they're getting the short end of the stick when it comes to home based employees.
This seems like a way to address all concerns. Employees get a WFH option and verizon (and other companies) reduce the cost of it's US workforce. Everyone gets something they value out of the arrangement.
I think most companies would be more open to WFH if they felt like it was more fair. In fact, this type of home based model is being looked into by many companies. I've even come across one state that is considering offering home based positions... anyone who takes this option will go from whatever pay level they are currently at to the base pay for their silo. In addition, the state would form a group dedicated to monitoring and analyzing the production and efficiency of home based workers.
@zf do you realize how stupid you sound? Lmao
I can't return to the office. I traded my car for an ev. I can't make it to the office on one charge now.
@zf
I wholeheartedly agree. Mainly because I think that may be the only way to keep WFH from being offshored
I'd bet dollars to donuts (calm down union members) that the employees that resist return to the office are the same ones that believed Fauci.
I fully support a home based work force. It would be a great asset to our company and our workforce. As those employees no longer require a car, truck or suv to commute, we can cut salary to compensate for that reduced expense. As video calls only film from the waist up we can reduce salary by half of the average annual wardrobe expense. To adjust for the time spent on domestic chores we can reduce salaries by a further 33%.
These measures will bring salaries in line with the new paradigm and accommodate those who think work dominates the work life balance.
@dk
Wrong.
Your argument boils down to this.... because you can’t work remote (in the job you willingly chose, remember), the rest of us should be forced to regress back to the office. That’s not logic, that’s envy dressed up as fairness.
Let’s broaden your reasoning. What about hospital workers, police, firefighters, and countless others who work 24/7/365 to keep society running? By your logic, why are you so special that you get to enjoy holiday meals, celebrate with friends, or just relax, while they’re eating cold leftovers or missing family time? Should holidays be canceled for everyone just because some people can’t take them? The same applies inside companies like Verizon, there are people working 24/7/365, giving up holidays, birthdays, anniversaries, all so the lights stay on and the systems keep running.
See the flaw? Different jobs come with different tradeoffs. Some have flexibility, some don’t. You don’t get to demand others lose their advantages just because you don’t share them.
Comprende, amigo? Or are you still too blinded by me, me, me to get it?
To the agoraphobe that cannot commute to their job for fear of their safety: you probably need to quit your job and get yourself institutionalized. That way you can get the help you need to become a fully functional and healthy member of our society. I will pray that you are strong enough to seek help and health. I hope everyone here will do the same.
WFH is for participation trophy losers who can't compete and don't know how to win because their incompetent, lazy parents and teachers taught them they get awarded for underperforming.
Employees should be showing there value. Show your face collaborate with others face to face. Otherwise outsourcing with continue and contracting. Why pay someone NY union wages when you can find someone in Kansas for half the cost?
Leaving you free to enjoy the endless options on the bootlick buffet
I hope all the work from home crowd is outsourced to India. Then you can all babysit your kids, do your laundry, and walk your dogs without hindering business.
You will be safe. When the armed security who flank the execs as well as the armed escorts who drive in front and behind them when they go from private jet to a meeting site (true story) have spare time, they will protect V Teamers as well.
@dz 2 waivers for what, the month? The year?
and we are 100% safe, if only we obediently trundle into the office like good little drones? laughable.
@dk - because they chose those jobs, and most of them must be done onsite (there are actually plenty of remote doctors now). A job that requires nothing more than a computer with a camera and good wifi can be done from ANYWHERE- which is every office (knowledge) job. I didn’t want to be onsite with rude customers, so I got an office/ remote job. If you want to be ‘onsite’ go right ahead or change careers.
@dc You are going to fight your way out of a job, they can ship your role to another country and pay them pennies on the dollar for more dedication and loyalty and zero whining. So keep fighting to stay at home and you may get your wish but not in the way you hoped for.
@dv they let my last accommidation end. I had to resubmit.. I don't go to any phony doctor, either. It is from a reputable specialist from a big name llhospital. Their agreement was to come in 3 days a week with 2 waivers to use when i simply cannot. I think they think everyone is physically able when it isnt true
@ds did they cut your last renewal short, or let you take the full approved term until you had to submit paperwork again, then deny the next one?
This is not true. Not everyone needs to return to the office. I have a severe medical issue where I can't return to the office (seizures).Accommodation met every time I submitted doctor accommodation. Since rto announcement i have been declined 4x. I know they can only green light a percentage of accommodations but everyone i kmow from my handicapped erg is getting declined and that is simply d-mb. So reading all this "put your big girl pants on and go in" does not apply to everyone. I am not whining. I think its more of a liability to have me have a seizure in the office.
No. You seemed to have misunderstood. This is the context:
What about all the field techs, mechanics, supermarket workers, truck drivers and many more that do all the in person jobs that enable us all to live comfortably. Why are you so special that you get to save on gas, clothes, wear and tear on your car and do all your chores all day while on the clock while the rest of us have to take days off or squeeze them into our time off. Be thankful for the time you had and stop thinking someone owes you the luxury of working from home.
So because you can't work remote (in the job you willingly chose, remember), we should have to regress to office.
My point is to broaden past your personal situation and self-interest and apply your logic more generally. Let's rewrite your post What about all the hospital workers, police, firefighters and many more that work 24/7/365 that enable us all to live. Why are you so special that you get to enjoy a holiday meal, celebrate with friends and family, or just relax and recharge while the rest of us have to eat cold leftovers or squeeze in where we can later. Be thankful for the holiday times you had and stop thinking someone owes you the luxury of enjoying holidays.Comprende, amigo? Or still too limited by your me,me,me,me blinders to get it?
@df That’s a lot of anger for a simple discussion. I have nothing but respect for police, firefighters, and hospital staff. Their sacrifices shouldn’t be used as a reason to dismiss conversations about workplace flexibility or safety for everyone else. Wanting a healthier work-life balance doesn’t make someone “worthless” - it makes them human. You sound like you could use a hug more than a fight. Have a nice life!
Guess what? Police, firefighters, hospital employees work all holidays. As soon as you start doing so, in solidarity with them, your point has merit.
But you won't do that. Coincidentally enough, you've drawn the line right where you might be inconvenienced.
You are an empty, worthless blowhard.
@cv
Different jobs have different demands and recognizing that reality doesn’t make one group “spoiled” or “special.” Remote work doesn’t diminish the value of in-person roles. It is simply a reflection of how technology allows some industries to adapt.
Instead of resenting flexibility, why not acknowledge that everyone benefits when companies evolve to support employees’ well-being? Flexibility, whether through remote options, adjusted schedules, or other arrangements, isn’t about luxury - it’s about empathy, balance, and productivity. The world has changed and workplaces should change with it.
Perhaps stop trolling and go get a hug from someone. Sounds like your frustration is showing more than your point.
Yep, cuz that's all this is about - being in pajamas. Absolutely no other reason for anyone. Brilliant reasoning and typical for a bootlicker.
I bet you even had a little chuckle to yourself after you posted your little shitnugget.
No. I reject your simplistic worldview. There are other options, despite the fact you can't comprehend them.
Not a waste of a post. It feels like we live on pins and needles these days. The world outside our doors doesn’t always feel safe, and the constant reports of g-n violence in schools, malls, places of worship, and other public spaces have created an atmosphere of quiet anxiety. Something as simple as sending kids to school can carry a weight it shouldn’t.
That’s why working from home has become more than just a convenience for me. It’s a way to stay closer to my kids if they ever need me. In a world that feels increasingly unpredictable, being nearby gives me a sense of peace and helps me prioritize what truly matters: family and safety. We thrived during Covid and got the job done from home. So this rto is backwards. Period.
After 9/11 they took management pensions away as well
What kind of company uses 9/11 to thank verizon workers for their work and chips away at their healhcare every contract after?
It’s time for all of us to get back to reality and get back to the office. If u don’t like it, go work elsewhere
No. It's really about trying to avoid bootlickers like you.
@bc you do realize the majority of Verizon is not union. Why are all these comments on here focused mostly on unions
Thanks for the Stoopid waste of post, OP. Now, let's talk about things that actually matter, like contract extension and EISP. nobody is gonna be on the rooftop trying to take out a clown selling grandma call waiting on a rotary line. Get back to work.
Vz only cares about their employees when/where it benefits them. Other than that, they don’t care - never have never will.
Cmon, isn’t that a bit of a stretch to justify staying home and working in your pajamas???