Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

Lawsuit strategy is a genius move

DH is a genius.

He intends to buy companies but wants to pay them little money. Try to kill the small competitors that are clearly next-gen like Avi Networks and Workspot, and buy them when they come to the negotiation table

All the trust shown in townhall meetings is story for another day.

How many people have seen this movie?

https://www.thepatentscam.com/

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More lawsuits are on the way.

Elliott runs the board and DH is good for excel sheets.

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Post ID: @vhfw+TksURdU

Citrix is is so f---ed up now. The Citrix cloud product they were banking in is a piece of sh--, does not work, has incredibly difficult licensing and takes too long and too much effort to implement for a SaaS product.

Citrix is only good for making garbage nobody wants and is banking on squeezing their installed base to keep them afloat.

There are now many other alternatives and better products in the market these days. They are trying to suppress the competition by suing them but that is a failed strategy. Make better products the customers need that are truly cloud instead of this born-in-the-cloud hypocrisy.

Fuc Sh--rix, fuc the entire management and fuc the ELT floridiot clowns for destroying the company.

Fuc all those c---s---ers

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Post ID: @osjn+TksURdU

It worries us that Citrix is so desperate that they are suing everybody. They have sued Egnyte, AVI Networks and now Workspot in the past six months. It's laughable. Our CIO sees this as a sign of weakness and the act of a dying company. He has asked us to move away from Citrix as a company. We've had years of frustration with them and we see no light at the end of the tunnel.

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Post ID: @nwtb+TksURdU

Lawsuits don't make any difference these days. It only brings bad PR for Citrix.

When was the last time Microsoft, Google or Amazon (real cloud companies) -- filed lawsuits? Wonder why? Because they know how to ship quality products and stay ahead of small competitors.

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Post ID: @mwfh+TksURdU

It’s a stupid move.

Both avi and workspot are high growth companies and will be public in 3-4 years.

Citrix suing born-in-the-cloud company sends a clear message to the big vendors and customers.

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Post ID: @mppt+TksURdU

Cisco can just call Citrix and say - back off mother-f---ers otherwise we will kill you! It’s all about who has more leverage in the market.

Cisco can also politely ask Citrix to drop the lawsuit. I think it all depends on the motive.

Citrix can not buy Avi now. It’s raised like 50+ so they are 500M and the Citrix board and ELT doesn’t care about futures. They are working on giving dividends and getting the stock up to keep the Elliott mafia happy

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Post ID: @iflk+TksURdU

Citrix was trying to fcuk Avi for cheap.

Guess what, they got a billionaire sugar daddy now in Cisco, and they will together go on expensive vacations at fortune500. Citrix can find cheap h--kers in Florida.

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Post ID: @eeha+TksURdU

Netscaler has no place in the cloud space. New apps are using ELB on Amazon. For east-west traffic Avi is killing legacy players. Born in the cloud will eat "lift/shift with fake cloud messaging" for lunch!

Similarly, the XA/XD guys are lost. Engineering leaders will get fired for making mistakes and then declaring victory for doing lift/shift!

Juan Rivera Retweeted Carl Stalhood:

When we designed the XA/XD service architecture, we made sure we would not leave our customers behind. Not repeating the IMA/FMA debacle. This model allows tools like this one to exist, easing the transition to the cloud. #CitrixCloud #XenApp #XenDesktop

https://twitter.com/juancitrix/status/999661290456010753

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Post ID: @divq+TksURdU

Avi’s strengthened partnership with Cisco is another reason for excitement. Cisco and Avi Networks’ intent-based application services are aligned and integrated to provide best-in-class automated networking solutions. For the past year, Avi Networks has been on the Cisco Global Price List (GPL) and this has been a success for both companies.

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https://blog.avinetworks.com/cisco-partnership-and-60-million-series-d-fuels-avi-networks-next-stage-of-growth

So the message is clear to Citrix: don't f--- with silicon valley startups. We'll partner with your sugar daddy and tap your a-- for free

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Post ID: @dkmr+TksURdU

Citrix is having to rewrite the products to run from the cloud as cloud native. So far they are struggling to get the management parts done. In the meantime they have born in the cloud competitors plus service providers who run Citrix on-prem versions on AWS and Azure. There doesn't seem to be much of a niche for a Citrix Cloud doing DaaS and the window is narrowing rapidly.

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Post ID: @dges+TksURdU

Citrix is struggling in the field. They have missed the cloud opportunity.

They need to "reboot" the products to satisfy the cloud requirements. Engineering will continue to ask for time and show fake data to show progress. Sales is feeling the pressure in the field.

CFO-hat-CEO can't figure out the product issues. I bet the ELT folks will leave before the ship sinks.

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Post ID: @dxeg+TksURdU

The AVI CEO probably has a special place for Citrix having been the CEO of Zenprise which was sold to Citrix. Now he goes to AVI where he can sock it to Citrix with the help of Cisco.

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Post ID: @dffo+TksURdU

I guess AVI will have a few bucks to fight the Citrix lawsuit and good luck to Citrix with trying to sell NetScaler through the Cisco sale force.

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Post ID: @dpsf+TksURdU

Karma is a b--ch! Citrix intimidating startups will come back and bite them.

Avi at Cisco will be on a mission to kill Citrix. Frame/Workspot at Microsoft will be on a mission to completely finish off Citrix.

DH: your move?

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Post ID: @dtca+TksURdU

F--- you citrix:

https://www.lightreading.com/enterprise-cloud/applications/cisco-cracks-wallet-joins-$60m-avi-funding/d/d-id/743653

Avi and Cisco will kill netscaler.

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Post ID: @dcoa+TksURdU

Fock off. We are Manchester.

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Post ID: @crux+TksURdU

Lawsuits are driven by PJ. Not by Henshall. He is a cont. As they in Ireland.

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Post ID: @cbpy+TksURdU

Sorry for DH. He had to use these tactics to buy time

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Post ID: @7miq+TksURdU

Citrix had a great ecosystem of all the HW vendors. Everyone from HP, Dell, IBM and HCI vendors were helping with sales. That's how it became a 10B+ company! Things changed when VMware entered the market.

Now with all the workloads moving to the cloud, it is impossible for Citrix to get same love and respect from the top 3 cloud vendors.

AWS is making it's own stack so Citrix gets nothing from Amazon. Microsoft will need to enter the market directly and not depend on crapware from Citrix to compete with AWS.

They are left with Google. No Microsoft exec in the keynote at Synergy is the biggest red-flag in the history of the company. Lawsuits can probably stop the startups that are only taking away 10's of customers every quarter. But if Microsoft announces it's own VDI in the cloud -- it's the end of the road for Citrix

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Post ID: @5xlr+TksURdU

Best people from Citrix are now at Nutanix. Did they make the right move? Yes - the company went public and people are getting rich. So just because some employees left Citrix and joined a competitor or startup in the space doesn't mean they will "sell out"

Citrix is struggling because it lost talent. Citrix is struggling because it is not hiring new talent. Cloud effort needs people with cloud skills. Florida engineers don't get it. The engineers who wrote desktop receiver code are now building cloud software. It's not possible for a mini-car engineer to build a rocket-ship.

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Post ID: @2mhj+TksURdU

this is a great example of his history of misplaced faith in certain people who will gladly sell out others to further their own int

What if these “people” made right decisions at Citrix but were not retained or valued due to politics? Sumit Dhawan single-handedly proved to Citrix that it’s all about people. Vmware went from nothing to beating Citrix in every 3rd account.

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Post ID: @2rqy+TksURdU

Avi was getting close to Cisco. DH and team figured if Cisco buys Avi - netscaler business will be dead. So the strategy is to c----block any M&A. Citrix has no money for M&A. They are only spending a few hundred grands for legal lawsuits. Citrix paid ~50 to Unidesk and Cedexis. Companies that are close to getting shut-down - so thats not real acquisition.

Avi and Workpot are growing companies with huge price tags so they are outside the reach of Citrix.

It's not ethical to compete with lawsuits. But so is firing a lot of people and not having any exec level accountability. Classic signs of a company going down.

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Post ID: @1ldi+TksURdU

What is a company. It's a collection of people. Its a culture. Citrix is a servant to PE firms and has no culture.

MT is doing what he thinks is right.

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Post ID: @1rcm+TksURdU

MT's involvement with Workspot and Instart Logic is fascinating. In spite of MT's many positive attributes, this is a great example of his history of misplaced faith in certain people who will gladly sell out others to further their own interests--especially when compared to his impatience and/or contempt for competent people looking out for the long-term interests of the company and customers.

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Post ID: @1wss+TksURdU

Why not sue Vmware. They have been doing everything Citrix does.

Shows the little “balls” in Florida.

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Post ID: @1cyl+TksURdU

This is great. Two interesting conspiracy theories. However Citrix is certainly patent trolling. Avi and Workspot have innovated. Citrix not so much. We shall see what happens.

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Post ID: @rtg+TksURdU

b---s---.

Avi Networks is copying features from Netscaler. Workspot team has no talent. Patent Infringement. False advertising - they don't know how awesome is citrix cloud.

Mark Templeton is advising them so DH decided to shut them down. He wants to tell Mark who is the real boss now.

Look at the stock price. B--ches.

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