Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

Spoke with AT&T Finance director... AT&T mandatory..5 days a week in office. Time to realize staff jobs are office jobs and woke is over. DS has AT&T roots.

Rto is yet another example of Verizon’s failure to execute on even the simplest things. No wonder we are losing. What can we do right? Our core competencies are senseless reorgs, layoffs, offshoring, and LinkedIn warrior executive posts.

An RTO KPI?

Its called attrition

agree with others about some people coming in all the time (even during the plandemic) who were not always confident with their jobs. Two were single, so a job loss would be devastating so I can understand that.

@de Verizon's underwhelming performance has nothing to do with WFH. It is because customers are unwilling/unable to pay more for services at Verizon than they would need to at every other one of our competitors.

I am surprised that there are people going to office 3 times a week. I go sometimes and it is always empty. It is a major hub site...

it’s being measured by the number of puzzles completed and coloring book pages covered.

Not very well, it seems. Most don't adhere to 3 days in office. Building 6.3 was a ghost town today in Basking Ridge. A Consumer Retail Operations floor shared with Corporate Communications. Looks like the rodents are staying away until RIF day passes on 12/20.

@f3
good point, I've reverted to 4x per month in BR, usually on a Weds or on a Thurs. Some weeks, I'll do a Wed/Thurs combo. SD/AVP all good with it as they do the same. Only 1 team mate in BR so like others, I'm on WebEx for approximately 30% of the day.
BR is a good place to take a walk and wave to some old team mates but other than that, not that interesting.

Whoever said BR was packed on Tuesday….. it was not overflowing like the first few weeks of RTO and the cafeteria during lunch time was not busy even compared to 2x.

I stopped going in 3x per week and go in when I want a break from WFH. It’s a pointless exercise of wasted commute time. I end up on Webex meetings anyway, and I end up socializing (I quite enjoy this) instead of collaborating (distributed team). Know of other teams where their leader told them to come in whenever.

I just commuted an hour to jump on Webex with a peer. I was a minute late, oh sloppy me!

@a8 how would you know?

I work with folks in another time zone, state...I go to office to open Webex and I work from home to open the Webex...

I have zero collaboration in the office.

I work from home and everyone I work with stay home as well 100 percent.
I don't know anyone going to office 3 times per a week.....except some who worry about badge/PC log check.

But I don't think HR will ever do that though.

@ac - "So people argue RTO isn't as productive as being at home. Wake up... Vz added 7000 post paid compared to AT&T and TM adding over 1,000,000. It's obvious why Vz Bosrd agreed to the 15,000 + RIFs and more to come."

Dude "nailed it!" You can down vote him all you want but Verizon's underwhelming performance vs. direct competitors says it all.

More cuts coming if the ship can't be turned around quickly.

Unless AD really monitors, I didn't think anyone actually goes to office three times a day. Under my SD, most team works from home. My SD is actually by himself totally alone in anther state and has no plan to move while his entire org member are is in the same city..he wont' come...However, under my SD, there are a few teams who has to come to office just because some ADs wants everyone in their team in the same office. Still there are lot of exceptions made even under those ADs and some just works from home.

For other org I work with, I don't know any team comes to work 3 times a week. They all work from home...100 percent.

I do go to office sometimes to get away from home find the office is empty....so...I don't understand this post. Does anyone actually comply with this RTO 3 times per a week?...

@ad we all still work here. We just don't go in

@cb verizon doesn't want us working in the office. That's why we get the extra pay. You wouldn't understand this level. Just get over it already

same way VZ’s success will be measured with X-15k employees.

@a9 100% certainty of that. I forget what the number was but absenteeism during the WFH era was so low as to almost be nil according someone high up I heard on a call a few years back.
And productivity amonst the RTO folks took a nose dive once back in the office. It was clear as can be working with a mixed team of half RTO and the other still remote. All of sudden there were long delays on slack, way less people were answering phones, etc.

@ac you really don't understand much of the world do you ? I can tell for certain that you have no idea what it is people here do for a living

Not sure why anyone would care what leadership says anymore. They say you can’t be promoted if not in a hub, but then you can. They say everything is great and raise guidance, then fire the ceo and do mass layoffs. There’s zero actual accountability and many lazy deadbeats remain doing nothing while others burn themselves out. If you don’t want to go to the office, don’t. Leadership is a total joke and has zero credibility.

I believe their ideal metric is how many people are quitting due to RTO. They don't want to pay severance.

So people argue RTO isn't as productive as being at home. Wake up... Vz added 7000 post paid compared to AT&T and TM adding over 1,000,000. It's obvious why Vz Bosrd agreed to the 15,000 + RIFs and more to come.

RTO is an antiquated strategy based on how the company was in 2010 not 2025. Our roles have changed as have the people, and their locations, that we all interact with. There will be no measure of success because it’s based on a belief in collaboration and nothing more. There is not a single metric that will support it. However I will lay money that sickness and absence rates will rise.

I can confirm badge logs, network connections etc in the office are NOT being tracked

BR on a Tuesday is packed, where do you sit? There's people everywhere.

I don’t think there’s any way to measure success of RTO. Maybe a few anecdotal examples but that’s it. Most employees certainly didn’t and don’t want it because they value flexibility. As far as I know, no one is counting badge swipes and there isn’t any punishment for not coming into the office

I wonder whether RTO 5 days will become a thing to get people to quit??

The success was a new CEO a month later. And 13k laid off a month and a half after that. It is and was a sham.