Why Dell wanted to acquire a company with so many issues and massive debt it beyond me. Their employees were also quite snooty and unwilling to assist during the merger and continue that way to this date. Must be all the Dunkin' Donuts up there clogging the brains and the arteries ....
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Nothing wrong with the EMC people and products, Dell needed it. What we didn't need was EMC exec taking over leadership positions while not understanding (and respecting) the Dell culture and way of winning. One at the helm who brought us where we are today. All our competitor are grinding and taking share, one sales leader not bringing in substantial groth.
I worked and transitioned on both Dell and EMC side. The problem was very simple, the business introduced siloes, internal competition in sales, operation, and product development. If only management could just recognised server and storage is actually the same business, breakdown the siloes of Dell and EMC. That will stop teams competing against each other, but working together to the same goals. Then it would have forstered amazing innovation and higher performance sales execution and more business. People are hanging onto product lines, brands, speciality, separate operations, just to stay relevant and say they are important. In the data centre, it should just be a server and a Dell software marketplace so the server can becomes whatever the customer requires. Let's be real, every storage product is based on a Poweredge server.
This is the thread that just keeps on giving
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I prefer Tim Horton’s.
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Hey Jeff Boudreau... stop with the rage bait
You are making me very angry. Very angry indeed.
This post is rage bait. I've been part of four buyout and mergers in my career and as far as Dell / EMC goes this merger has been better than most.
I was fortunate enough to go to Chairman’s club immediately after the takeover.
Within 24 hours after arriving at Michael Dell’s Four Season’s property in Hawaii(lining his pockets more), my gorgeous wife of 26 years looked at me and said: “this merger will never work as it will be a total culture clash. The Dell people openly hate the legacy EMC people and the EMC people don’t trust the Dell people”.
Always listen to wise people in your life….
The combined company could have been awesome if both sides would have embraced each other and their strengths. Leadership on both sides failed.
VSP baby!!
Hey Jeff Boudreau... stop with the rage bait!
EMC got bought. It wasn’t a merger. That was the HR line to make the massholes and mormons feel like they were part of the family. I know most people who post on here no longer work for the company, so allow me to update you: it isn’t even Dell EMC anymore, we got rid of that branding over a year ago. Also, layoffs can be good- look at the quality of people who have been let go and still spend their time on this garbage lol. Get a life.
Nope. Just requires a sales rep to booze up the CIO and buy them “entertainment”
Sales guys who could no longer expense their Alcohol and S3x addition to the company after the acquisition all went elsewhere.
No one wants to buy a friggin PowerMax to have some overweight bearded dude lord over storage allocations. They buy servers with drives in them and are done. The days of needing 30 people to provision a LUN are long gone since about 2011.
EMC was headed for a disaster in 2015.
Dell saw VMware captive and came up with a strategy to use VMW to pay for the acquisition and make himself $70B richer in the process.
8 years in and still have dingbats griping about the other company. In my experience, I've worked with good people from both companies. I've also worked with blockheads from both companies. The reality is both companies had their strengths and weaknesses. My only gripe is that Dell bought EMC and didn't appreciate their strengths, or what it takes to play in the enterprise storage space (there is a reason why EMC had such dominant market share). Look at the changes to pre-sales engineering as an example...who needs SE's with deep knowledge on our products and our customers' needs when you can put someone in with no technical background?
At times, I've looked at the merger as a pain...slow, not that smooth...then I've seen how Broadcom has merged VMware with a "fast as possible, even if it breaks everything" approach. Now ours doesn't look so bad...
Company makes 8-7 points of margin on server and 40-60 points of margin on EMC storage. Which one do yo I think requires the more skilled sales rep?
Not surprised legacy Dell folks can’t put this together. Zero business acumen
Any kind of blanket statements about all EMC or Dell people being trash/egos/vapid, etc. is just so immature. So many good people on both sides. I've been through many acquisitions and almost all of them fail. This one was just a monumentally poor effort to integrate, for many reasons. The sniping back and forth in this thread is evidence of that.
EMCers were mostly garbage - either inpet/incapable and/or ancient generation folks who love to commandeer and should not be allowed to manage anybody on first place. DELL, get rid of EMC cr-p if you know what is good for you!
The thing that amazed me after the Dell EMC deal is that all of the great things that EMC invented/implemented/deployed was identified as not being invented by Dell and was trashed.
I was working on a project to implement a new application just after the merger, and the Dell people asked if we had put in a PO to buy servers to run the application on. We, EMC people, were perplexed and we responded that we didn’t need to buy equipment, we would just have VM’s spun up within 24 hours. The Dell people couldn’t believe it. The next day the VM’s were ready to start development and the developers were already actively developing.
Having lived through the merger as an EMC sales rep. The legacy Dell AE's 5 years after the merger only cared about laptops and servers. They could care less about learning about storage we were the red headed stepchild. They also only wanted to take business direct. If the legacy EMC rep wanted to use the channel you were blacklisted. Meanwhile the partners figured this out and would register Pure Storage, Rubrik, Cohesity, Nutanix etc and Dell lost market share. The sales leaders knew this on both sides and wouldn't talk about it. They would just say.. "Hold your Dell AE accountable" The sales structure is broken. Also so is the Dell Sales Application (DSA) It takes an hour just to write a quote.
Triggered. Big egos. Thin skin.
I like DunkinDonuts myself, I think it's more of the chowder and the general Masshole mentality. Mad that Tom Brady is gone perhaps?
Dell and EMC both have some great leaders and employees. Its people like you however that have made the merger and opportunity to do something special impossible. Too many toxic people who have an inflated image of themselves and did nothing to make it all work.
Hopefully you are on a list next week.
You drink too much
EMC had $10 bilion in cash
VMware
Legato
Documentum
RSA
40% share in sotrsabe business and 97% in FT-500
Dell was PC maker with 18bln debt
Daddy EMC - lol!!!
They’re more like the drunken uncle EMC! - lol
The biggest cry baby - get out and touch the grass! Do your job, get a life, dude.
Talking boll@cks and you know it. Dell employees were scared they would be compared to EMC staff and actually do a proper day's work
“…Their employees were also quite snooty and unwilling to assist during the merger and continue that way to this date…”
More like unwilling to be assimilated into the toxic “Michael, Michael, Michael” culture code nonsense. BTW, I love that classic “Dell Bot” fashion style… you know… the hair, the jacket, the glasses, the same vapid look in the eye. It looks wicked pissa ya Dell Do-g.
Don't talk about Daddy EMC like that....