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Trump’s EEOC Chief Threatens Civil Rights Lawsuits Amid H-1B Hiring. Total scams H-1B, J-1, TN, L-1, TN, OPT, or CPT documents.

Companies that prefer migrants and H-1B visa workers over Americans will face federal investigations and discrimination lawsuits, says Andrea Lucas, who President Donald Trump picked to serve as acting chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC).

“The EEOC is putting employers and other covered entities on notice: if you are part of the pipeline contributing to our immigration crisis or abusing our legal immigration system via illegal preferences against American workers, you must stop,” Lucas said in a February 20 notice.

“The law applies to you, and you are not above the law. The EEOC is here to protect all workers from unlawful national origin discrimination, including American workers,” she added.

“Guardedly optimistic,” civil rights lawyer John Miano responded after Breitbart News asked for his assessment.

If the EEOC follows through, it could force companies to curb their hiring of migrants over Americans, said Miano, who is now suing more than 30 Chicago companies for advertising jobs to foreign H-1B workers, but not to Americans.

The move was also welcomed by Amanda Louise, a Missouri-based former tech worker who has begun filing lawsuits against companies that recruit H-1B workers over Americans.

The policy shift is important because many major companies in the United States have foreign-born managers to fill up many jobs with foreign workers, such as mixed-skill H-1B workers, instead of accomplished American graduates.

Nationwide, roughly 1.6 million professional jobs have been filled with foreign workers carrying H-1B, J-1, TN, L-1, TN, OPT, or CPT documents. There are no caps on these programs, nor any requirements that employers try to hire Americans first.

These foreign workers are recruited by hiring managers, many of whom are themselves migrants. This job selection process is critical for Americans’ careers, yet it has been largely exempt from the nation’s anti-discrimination laws.

Those laws bar discrimination against women, racial minorities, and also against American citizens.

However, many Americans and visa workers have told Breitbart News that hiring managers prefer to award jobs to co-ethnic foreign workers, usually in a deal for kickbacks, such as a percentage of a worker’s salary. This concealed process allows each company’s clique of immigrant managers to profitably sell jobs held by accomplished American graduates, regardless of the damage to their company’s long-term profitability.

Breitbart News has covered many examples of established American professionals being fired so they could be replaced by groups of lower-skilled, lower-wage visa workers. Many companies and CEOs have been indicted for criminal fraud for engaging in this practice.

The selling of American professionals’ jobs to ethnic migrants often happens with tacit approval by hands-off American executives who are eager for apparent cost savings.

The result of this hidden market for American jobs is that many technology centers are crowded with Indian visa workers, not American professionals. One tech manager at a critical company in Silicon Valley wrote on X:

Just recently I was at a meeting of all director and above leaders for my product, and I was the only one (of about 25) who was not Indian male. Picking a random senior director of engineering at random from our corporate directory, who is Indian, he has 36 US-based employees. Of them 2 are American, 2 are Chinese, the rest Indian. All of his bosses up to the CEO are Indian. This is not an outlier.

Business leaders claim that the hiring is justified because the H-1B workers are highly skilled — even though the H-1B visas are awarded by lottery to candidates with varied skill levels.

Lobbyists also argue that the visa workers help to raise stock values and that there is a shortage of American experts — even though data shows that STEM wages are flat and many American STEM workers are sidelined.

Moreover, there is little evidence that companies that rely on the H-1B and their visa-worker subcontractors are more productive than companies that rely on skilled American graduates. In fact, many H-1B workers need to be trained by Americans, and the subcontractors have their own incentives that differ from U.S. investors and CEOs.

The EEOC statement said:

Employers have many excuses for why they may prefer non-American workers, but none of these are legally permissible reasons to violate Title VII:

lower cost labor (whether due to payment under the table to illegal aliens, or exploiting rules around certain visa-holder wage requirements, etc.);
a workforce that is perceived as more easily exploited, in terms of the group’s lack of knowledge, access, or use of wage and hour protections, antidiscrimination protections, and other legal protections; customer or client preference;
biased perceptions that foreign workers are more productive or have a better work ethic than American workers.
“The law is clear: the prohibition on national origin discrimination applies to any national origin group, including discrimination against American workers in favor of foreign workers,” Lucas said. “The EEOC is going to rigorously enforce the law to protect American workers from national origin discrimination.”

The statement was released with news that a company paid a $1.4 million fine after being charged with favoring Japanese workers over American workers. The company operates in Guam, which is a legal U.S. territory.

At least 3 million H-1B workers have been imported since 1990, after which Americans’ salaries and workplace clout cratered.

“You’re supposed to answer [executives’ questions] in a very subservient way” when working alongside visa workers, Mary, from central New Jersey, an immigrant software expert, told Breitbart News in 2020:

I would tell [the executive] professionally what the issue was, and she didn’t like that. You can’t oppose her in any way. If she tells you “It is black,” it has to be black even if it is white. [The Indian contractors] will feed her what she wants to hear … They cater specifically to that [attitude].

When the information given to that manager is wrong, and that manager does not care, the professionalism of the field is gone, she said.

The deprofessionalization of the Fortune 500s has weakened the vital tension between professionals, managers, and investors that was key to Silicon Valley’s success. Since roughly 2010, the U.S. economy has been clogged by the H-1B influx, causing numerous failures, corporate risks, technical sclerosis, and reduced productivity.

The dominance of foreign workers in the U.S. tech sector also threatens the privacy of Americans’ personal information, the security and reliability of networks vital for national security, and Americans’ valuable intellectual property.

Moreover, once Indian managers move into senior jobs, they often support the transfer of jobs, careers, technology, revenue, and wealth to India.

This huge economic and class shift has largely been ignored by professional journalists, nearly all of whom are working for pro-migration media outlets.

For example, editors at the Washington Post have posted only four news articles on the contentious H-1B program since December. In contrast, Breitbart News has posted more than 30 articles since December. Similarly, Twitter constricts debate over the H-1B visa, and almost all academics are muted.

But polls show that Americans are increasingly alarmed by the loss of white-collar jobs and careers. As yet, no national politician has jumped into that political opportunity.

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Post ID: @OP+1jmtxz1ht

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another point about apple

since it shipped a lot of work to China
did China copy/steal any of that technology
and make itself stronger and a better competitor because of it
who is being held accountable for that

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Post ID: @e4+1jmtxz1ht

"You are incorrect, see headline from your people at CNN:
“Apple, facing tariffs on Chinese imports, says it will invest $500 billion in US facilities”
And no mention of asking for taxpayer handouts, unlike Ford."

Apple is no saint nor is it pro american. Apple loves its slave labor.

Apple Inc. was one of the luckier consumer-electronics companies when it got exemptions from the tariffs imposed by the first Trump administration on many goods made in China.

"Apple could have its manufacturing partners ramp up production in India and ship to the U.S.," Mohan told clients Monday. "This could also be done for other Apple products that are manufactured in countries including Vietnam, Malaysia, etc. We have assumed 80% of Apple products sold in the U.S. can be sourced from other countries, apart from China."

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20250203484/apple-escaped-tariffs-last-time-this-time-it-may-have-to-raise-prices

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Post ID: @e3+1jmtxz1ht

"Americans won’t accept our low pay,much less work the long hours we ask. They don’t even apply, I get 10 resumes from Indians for every American"

the indians are trying to get away from terrible living conditions
THAT IS PART OF THEIR PAY
and the americans, the ones who created those living conditions,
get nothing in return
wait they get unstable jobs, a deteriorating standard of living, non merit based hiring,
more debt,...

in summary executives get something, indians get something,
regular americans who built this nation get left out

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Post ID: @e0+1jmtxz1ht

Ford loves H1B's.
Ford sending most work to Brazil, India, Mexico...

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Post ID: @dw+1jmtxz1ht

@ d6+1jmtxz1ht

You are incorrect, see headline from your people at CNN:
“Apple, facing tariffs on Chinese imports, says it will invest $500 billion in US facilities”

And no mention of asking for taxpayer handouts, unlike Ford.

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Post ID: @dc+1jmtxz1ht

@cv+1jmtxz1ht

Apple is part of the problem. Why are they exempt from Tariffs? What did they bribe the president with to get so lucky?

I don’t mind the tariffs as long as it applies to all companies and products. Cherry picking what company is exempt only causes more issues later on.

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Post ID: @d6+1jmtxz1ht

It’s not right to import people for the purpose of getting cheap labor.

If American company can’t find Americans to do the jobs for the pay they offer, the companies will just have to offer more.

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Post ID: @cz+1jmtxz1ht

@a4+1jmtxz1ht

Apple is NOT part of the problem, no corporate welfare requested, unlike Ford:

Apple said on Monday it plans to help bring online a quarter-million-square-foot factory in Texas by 2026 to build artificial intelligence servers and will add about 20,000 research and development jobs across the U.S.

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Post ID: @cv+1jmtxz1ht

If you missed the train, you could do a couple of different things.

You can make sure that you get on the next one. May be later than you originally wanted but you will be there.

You may ask that specific train (and all the passengers on board) you missed to wait for you in the next station until you eventually arrive.

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Post ID: @cn+1jmtxz1ht

Americans won’t accept our low pay,much less work the long hours we ask. They don’t even apply, I get 10 resumes from Indians for every American and even when I interview the American, the conversation ends when I reveal the salary range. So, as a hiring manager, I have no choice,

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Post ID: @bz+1jmtxz1ht

The job market in STEM is horrible for Americans. If you can find a job it’s lower wages now. Engineering degree no longer guarantees a job.

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Post ID: @bx+1jmtxz1ht

As long as Billionaires run Corporate America, all Visa programs will continue to exist cause all they care is about how much money goes into their own pockets. They don't care who and where the work is done. They just care if the end customer is satisfied and will order more products from them so they can make the most on their products with the cheapest labor they can find. Just look at Apple. They still have a major presence in China, and now expanding to third world countries. Sure, they have some manufacturing in USA, but if they bought all the manufacturing to USA, that would create millions of jobs. But because they want to make great revenues and profits (mainly making it from sales in USA by selling an iphone for over $1000), they won't bring all those jobs that are in the third world countries to USA. But the control on how much Apple makes in revenues and profits, is in the hands of the American people. If the American people STOPPED BUYING APPLE PRODUCTS completely and told APPLE they must manufacture all their products in USA, then perhaps American people would have jobs and not need visa workers in this country at all. But because American people are extremely materialistic, they are willing to pay $1000 per phone and make Apple extremely profitable with very cheap labor in foreign countries. This is where the President of USA needs to step in and put 100% tariffs on Apple products. If he does this, then only will Apple have no choice but to manufacture Apple products in USA for USA consumers. However, Tim Cook has Trump's ears, and somewhat lies by saying we are creating jobs in USA because they have one manufacturing plant of Apple notebooks in Texas. But one small plant is not enough. And creating a few hundred jobs in USA per year is not enough, or even a few thousand jobs. We need all manufacturing of Apple products to come back to USA. We need jobs in USA for the lower and middle class. We don't care about the share price increasing 10x every 5 years. We don't care to make investors and shareholders rich. We care to put food on our tables and shelter for our families.
At the end of the day, the VISA program only makes the rich richer. It's not the foreign immigrants fault for wanting a better opportunity by working hard as they can, but it's the politicians and the greedy rich 1% of America that want more money in their pockets.

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