Thread regarding Google Inc. layoffs

Optimal Window for Layoffs

The optimal time for layoffs would have been back in mid October. More specifically, more than 60 days before December 25. This is because of federal law for layoffs.

Most Googlers have pre-stock-split grants that were granted in January of the previous 4 years. These grants can vest monthly if large enough, but for many Googlers the vestings are quarterly, semi-annually or annually.

This the December vesting was fairly large. Also, the January bonus payout is significant.

By not doing layoffs back in October, Google missed not paying those out.

Another key vesting date, although not as big, is March 25. 60 days prior is Tuesday, January 24. The Friday before that is January 20.

If Google was to have layoffs in the name of saving money, as some posters on this board suggest, then Google would have done so months ago. If Google is still serious about saving money in spite of missing that opportunity, there is a little less than two weeks to seize the next opportunity.

We will know for sure soon if layoffs are going to happen, or if the rumors were fake.

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Post ID: @OP+1kAut7Em

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@cqyb+1kAut7Em right, they considered reputation, which is why they laid off 12,000 people in spite of plenty of cash in the bank.

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Post ID: @Bsww+1kAut7Em

We’ll pay 2022 bonuses and remaining vacation time. Also 16 weeks of rsu vesting. I told you good management always check reputation affects before any major steps....

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Post ID: @cqyb+1kAut7Em

@OP here, I didn't have any specific insight. I wrote as a hypothetical, based on things like equity vesting dates.

Frankly I forgot about this post until this morning. Looks like Google waited until the last minute. I wasn't impacted but I haven't yet grasped all the details.

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Post ID: @cakw+1kAut7Em

OP post spot on. Great insight....which groups, locations are affected?

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Post ID: @cyuh+1kAut7Em

Sounds like OP jinxed it.

Not Google per SE, but layoffs this week at Verily and Intrinsic

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Post ID: @4knd+1kAut7Em

Add Goldman Sachs to the list of companies laying people off without bonuses.

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Post ID: @3era+1kAut7Em

Do you believe in Twitter reputation? Specifically after new CEO Mr "ADDICT" taking decisions after taking Ca--abis shot LOL...

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Post ID: @3wpw+1kAut7Em

Except Twitter didn't pay any bonus to laid off employees. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2023-01-10/musk-twitter-layoffs-severance-lawsuits

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Post ID: @2zze+1kAut7Em

Reputed companies anyway pay prorated bonuses if they just fire employees just before bonuse payday. It's unfair if they take advantage of their employees for very small amounts. Best layoff strategy is do it once, take confidence of remaining employees that It's over for atleast a yaer. Also if companies take months to hire an employee they are not going to fire them without checking for all the possibilities to remain one of their best assets.

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Post ID: @2wan+1kAut7Em

You should inform Sundar about it.

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Post ID: @2qcv+1kAut7Em

@1uvg definitely the latter, but is effectively both.

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Post ID: @2gkn+1kAut7Em

Just to clarify, who got hired to solve programming puzzles and chase bugs? Or are you just referring to the interview process?

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Post ID: @1uvg+1kAut7Em

That would assume Google is a well run company. If Google was a well company, there wouldn't be so many LPA projects. They wouldn't be hiring and over paying PhDs who just chase bugs. Their top priority would be to hire people who are qualified to do actual work instead of solving programming puzzles. Remember, Google is not a conventional company. They do not intend to become one.

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Post ID: @1nby+1kAut7Em

Okay?

OP's main point was about stock vests though.

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Post ID: @ueg+1kAut7Em

Most big companies don’t rush big layoffs due to the regulatory issues in states like California. The more established big public companies didn’t seem to do their layoffs based on short term saving money… And I don’t recall them happening to coincide with avoiding paying bonuses. I would say it’s usually a future budget issue - not money you’ve already budgeted for unless you’re really on dire straits.

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Post ID: @hao+1kAut7Em

Optimal time for layoffs is ASAP after you've decided to do it. Anything else is more demoralizing because of the emotional overhang at every decision level. That's why companies exist to completely outsource this kind of thing, to limit the emotional damage of the snowflakes who can't handle it.

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