What are everybody's thoughts on this? How will it affect AI efforts in the U.S.? How will it affect us?
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anyone saying it took 2months and $6mln have no idea what they are saying
its gpt-3.5 source used to reboot , there is no open source of it
it's not sure where it runs and if fall-back-on-openAI exist to get it 'info' to questions it can't answer
so yeh
Dell put way too many eggs in the AI basket. I have to go and complete online training about the new laptops with an innovative hinge. Until I receive Business Update email.
From what I've read, DeepSeek prioritized minimizing cost to train. So you get very good performance for a fraction of the cost. It's like the old storage model of ethernet vs fiber channel. Some customers will still demand the best, some will settle on good enough.
The implication for Dell is that more companies will be able to afford a useful model. The huge whale companies that buy $100MM+ in xe servers may slow down their purchases while the dust settles.
Nobody really knows.
Does look like the POS tanked the stock today though, next shiny object?
@bz+1jjk0v8wh if you think there aren't similar philosophical biases for liberal progressive thinking or American got interest in all of our various technologies, you're quite blind. We need to stop the "CHINA JUST COPIES AND THEY'RE EVIL CO-MIES" boogeyman cr-p.
I’m leery of anything developed with the backing of the PRC. You can’t be sure what govt will use it for. And it self-censors, topics considered sensitive in the PRC won’t be processed
It's good.
Time will tell. Early claims and demonstrations show Deepseek beating Chatgpt open AI on much cheaper and much older hardware. If true this may be the bubble popping. So much grifting and hyping it's hard to know for sure. We will know in a few months. Every know-nothing lazy grifter I know went into AI to make a quick buck. Outside of those who went to a fortune 100 almost all are struggling.
If it were so cheap and easy to create in such time, why hasn't it been done sooner. Like most things out of there, it's probably leveraging work done already ripping off proprietary software from the U.S.
Commoditization of AI through significant efficiency gains, adoption of “good enough” AI models for most use cases, etc was always going to happen rapidly. Dell’s days of pretending to be an AI player are about over. They’ll have to move on to the next shiny object to that they can spin being a part of with the same old hardware.
maybe our high schools/prep schools/universities are too much into teaching DEI and it's okay to be special rather than teaching what they're supposed to be learning in college. Get rid of this 'well rounded' education and teach what they're supposed to learn. Perhaps our kids wouldn't be so 'd-mb' as you suggest.
Agree that China took a good approach with deepseek, but dude you're goina knock yourself out going down on foreigners that hard. It really isn't that deep
It took China 2 months and less then $6 Million.
USA is in deep (sh)it. Many American's don't have the math and science required to work on advancing AI cause they are too busy creating video's for tiktok while the Chinese kids are very competitive and learn math, science, and english.
The only way America can compete is by opening it's doors to highly educated immigrants and expand (yes, expand) all work visa and student visa programs. USA is going to need as many highly educated foreigners it can get a hold of since majority of the American kids are d-mb. And any parent denying it is in denial themselves. Just ask the parent to do some simple calculation at the total price of their grocery bill (with or without tax) before they step up to the cash register. None will be able to do it in their head and have to pull out their cellphone calculator. While an educated foreigner can do the math in their head.