Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

RTO moans

Stop the RTO moaning already. Over 100 post on the topic on a layoff site. The sh-t reality is this is mandated evrywhere e.g. Google, Microsoft, Tesla, Meta, Deloitte, EY, PwC, KPMG, Accenture, all the big banks, all the big FSI, and the list goes on and on. Dell is actually one of the last place to implement RTO. The place is toxic atm but just calling out a spade as a spade. 39 days across a quarter is inline with everyone else. Blame the States and local government if we need someone to blame. There are incentives for corporation to return employees into cities. Businesses in CBD are dying and it impacts ecommence in CBD. Incentives are driving all corporation to have RTO policies. Stop the moaning, its still better than life before covid.

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Post ID: @OP+1rIa2oQa

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As mentioned Dell pre-covid was a proponent of remote work and supporting the option. The other and even bigger negative is Dell was supportive of Austin employees changing locations during covid along with more open to hire roles previously requiring based out of Austin to remote. All those people, and I know several, are now sc--wed after being told previously the company supports them.

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Post ID: @8aoy+1rIa2oQa

The joke is on the companies demanding in person work... everyone I talk to is working the required hours in the office and nothing more - no more late night or early morning meetings, no more weekends to get ahead.

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Post ID: @1wiq+1rIa2oQa

Dell gets extra sh-t because it was a huge proponent of remote work. Talking out its a-s about the value of remote work while secretly planning a RTO policy all alone. The guise was simply to sell PCs and other hardware and software services integral to remote work.

As remote work lost favor after the pandemic, Dell triggered return to office. Anyone who was required to work onsite during the pandemic (lab workers, security personnel, etc) could clear see Dell was implementing return to office all the while.

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Post ID: @1oym+1rIa2oQa

Left Dell in 2019, employers since are staying fully remote, more productive, better profits, leaders see no reason to change. I've WFH for last 4 years and intend to do so lacking an insane offer that requires hybrid. Will never accept FT office...

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Post ID: @1qzs+1rIa2oQa

I was remote BEFORE Covid sooooo no, it’s not better lol

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Post ID: @kbb+1rIa2oQa

So, the company is benefitting from incentives on the backs of the workers, who bear all the costs (money, time, etc.) Howzabout they kick back a little of that to help subsidize adherence to these policies?

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Post ID: @jmh+1rIa2oQa

Well it's because dell reneged on a lot of people after telling them WFH was permanent.

All the folks who moved out of the area.
All the folks who were hired as REMOTE employees
And now the you can be remote but with a lot of saber rattling

And PLEASE tell me what downtown area is begging for Dell to bring back employees for tax breaks. As far as I know Dell doesn't really have a major campus anywhere.
It's a bunch of discombobulated buildings and rented offices

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Post ID: @rpk+1rIa2oQa

Adjusting to Covid and WFH. By selling a vehicle, no more care for animals/kids, buying desk etc for home office. Things like that. Just to be told a couple years later to come back in and figure out all that things you changed. Yea I can see why employees would be annoyed.

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Post ID: @rqv+1rIa2oQa

"What's the deal with Dell's return to office policy, huh? I mean, one day you're working from home in your pajamas, living the dream, and the next they're like, 'Hey, remember those pants? You're gonna need 'em!' It's like they're dragging us kicking and screaming back to the land of fluorescent lights and awkward elevator small talk. And don't even get me started on the coffee situation. At home, it's artisanal blends and frothy goodness. At the office? Stale sludge in a paper cup. It's like they're trying to ruin our caffeine buzz along with our work-life balance!"

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Post ID: @pff+1rIa2oQa

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/06/08/google-salesforce-return-to-office/

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Post ID: @zrj+1rIa2oQa

@wea+1rIa2oQa

Dude, Dell is literally mentioned in the Bloomberg article.

Tax Breaks Threaten Remote Work If Cities Start Enforcing Them https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-21/another-threat-to-work-from-home-tax-breaks

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Post ID: @dhe+1rIa2oQa

How many of those other companies you named actually invested in new buildings, capital, equipment and amenities for the office?

Which company had a fire sale on land, buildings, and amenities and are asking employees to come back to gutted facilities and dilapidated shared workspaces?

I think it's disingenuous of you to lump Dell in with those companies on many levels.

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Post ID: @wea+1rIa2oQa

@bsi+1rIa2oQa

Its a fickled world when the rest of the herd is doing something different and there are millions of dollars to collect by following the herd.

Its the directors' obligation to act in the best interest of shareholders.

Dell is No longer a private company or the world's biggest startup. Doesn't matter what MD said before. Shareholders prefer to collect the millions.

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Post ID: @ono+1rIa2oQa

One big difference: Dell was pro-remote BEFORE the pandemic. Most others were not.

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Post ID: @bsi+1rIa2oQa

Its called the Enterprise Zone program.

Here is an article and Dell is named on it.

Tax Breaks Threaten Remote Work If Cities Start Enforcing Them https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-21/another-threat-to-work-from-home-tax-breaks

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