Thread regarding Shell Oil layoffs

@br+1k04p9931

they’re next. indians will be running robots with remote controls in their “real jobs” that “need” to be on location. already happening in retail shopping and gas station clerks

this is assuming they don’t simply travel somewhere to work on a computer and print paper. in which case, that job will be outsourced anyway. being in person doesn’t save you unless you utilize that presence to make an impression that inclines someone to not cross your name off on a list. facts. it’s already happened at many oil and gas companies that are fully back to office. if your idea is that RTO means people don’t get outsourced then you’re a fool.

at best, doing physical work that requires you to interact with a fixed object in the place of work means it will take a decade to outsource or replace you.

this is why leaving the industry for one that values and truly leverages human presence is the real answer. you won’t find that in oil and gas.

@bj+1k04p9931

You have to realize there is no lobbying group in Washington for corporate oil and gas employees in the US that make 120k+ per year working 2-3 hours per day. Most of your fellow Americans will not feel sympathy for workers that are able to work remote most of the week making those type of salaries. It's not bitterness...it's just facts.

I guess the sad reality is that if you're a support role and can work mostly remote then we are at risk to be moved around globally for cutting costs

@a7+1k04p9931

if i wanted to make 30% of the money and secure my same role then id move to india. truely awful advice though i can tell its not sincerely given. probably written by a bitter non-american.

if your solution is to do nothing but work harder and accept you’ll be fired anyway then i have no interest in it. what a d-mb idea. truly stupid.

the solution is to leave the industry for one that values americans, not to double down on oil and gas.

fighting for what will be the remaining 10% of roles is insane. only a person who thinks work is their entire life could have such tunnel vision

@ay

Immerse yourself into your profession and the oil and gas industry. The conversations should always be about what is going on with your projects, profession, and the oil and gas industry. Iron sharpens Iron. Discuss ideas on how Shell can either increase revenues or decrease costs. And be honest with yourself and your colleagues. If there is work that can be automated or done for less somewhere else, accept it, and think how you can help accelerate the process of automating or outsourcing those tasks. Then if you have the intellect and desire, you can involve yourself in higher level work at Shell or move on to another job knowing you gave it your best. Otherwise someone in another country will do your job for less and show more dedication.

Also, if you're part of the support functions at Shell, the most important part is to permanently move to living on 30%-40% of your current salary. There is so much out of your control if you're in the support functions. Consider yourself fortunate to have worked for a company as large as Shell and know that all you can do is give your best everyday and hope it's enough. If majority of your time is spent talking about traveling, food, and politics that have nothing to do with oil and gas...it's already over for you!

@a7 what should we be talking about at work then?

US Shell staff have to be better than their counterparts in other countries. For most support functions, this race is over. India, Philippines, Poland, Singapore, etc... have won. As a former Shell employee, when I have talked to people I know at Shell in the last 10+ years, they are busy talking about traveling, food, and politics (the surface level stuff). This is not a recipe for beating your competition especially now that AI is coming and outsourcing is reliable. They do have passion for their profession or industry. This will happen to other industries as well except for government (national security reasons). The best thing to do is to save/invest your money and act as if you make 30%-40% of your current salary. After Shell, you'll still be able to find a job that pays at least 30% of what you're being paid now. You'll be okay!

Outsourcing and also H1B generally help the American economy.