Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Anyone who still thinks that they don't need to badge in should give that some more consideration.

HR will never tell you, or possibly your manager, why you are on a list of the departed.

But the badge and computer use stats are collected and if they are curious, for some time now there has been camera monitoring stats as well.

So maybe don't sleep in your car while on shift, or sit in the cafe for half of your shift either. And certainly minimize the time spent on your phone or PC, doing stuff which is not work.

Over and over, people think they have found a way to skate by, only to find that the company has cut holes in the ice.

The thing about those holes, is you can't really tell who made them..as you drift down the river.

Remember (a couple months ago) when people thought they weren't being monitored?

Yeah, that was funny.

I felt a great disturbance in the workforce, as if tens of thousands of badges suddenly cried out in te---r and were suddenly deactivated. I fear something terrific has happened.

@fh Intel so far has more or less copied Amazon HR policies, and they are very aggressive about badges.

Amazon is also likely to be a huge developer of humanoid robotics, so when you see them show up in the warehouses, know that they will soon be at Intel.

But long before then people will come to realize how much the Intel culture has changed. First clue was Christie being pushed out. LBT is ready to go full bezos on slackers.

Expecting to see the badge scan stats to show a sharp decrease in about a month, followed by a steady decline over the next few years.

Not sure if humanoid robots will have badges. More likely they will have an RFID tag, so their location within the facility can always be measured.

Oh wait, RFID tags are in the badges too. D'oh!

@9ff People are about to experience this first hand.

Because no one tells those affected or anyone else the reasons for their being included in one of these annual mass exodus exercises, nothing is learned.

That may be on purpose, because the company wants people who will comply with policy without being monitored too heavily.

HR won't ever tell you that you were selected due to badge scans, keystroke monitoring or anything else, unless you've been so slacking that you are individually selected.

Nope, what will happen is you end up on the list and you are gone. No particular reason provided.

People think the are getting away with various shenanigans, but they are simply being handed the rope to hang themselves.

@1qq+ Might be a good time to clear out your home work station, just in case security shows up at your house to get your badge and laptop.

If you get called to Room 101 (located near the entrance), just know what comes next.

Life is made of choices and consequences.

Badge scan stats do not show who actually does work. Nice try though.

A bit late for those who have been abusing the hybrid policy, but know that badge scans, the RFID in your badge and AI-assisted cameras have been in use for years.

Whenever the company needs to generate a list for terminations, data like this is analyzed and acted upon.

The rest of the time it has in the past only been used when an issue was brought to HR attention, such as reports about some entire fab shift not being on site.

A lot of newer employees are likely not aware of how much monitoring the company does. It is the same at all larger tech companies.

Santa Tan has a list of the naughty, and will be handing out lumps of coal very soon.

For whom the badge scan tolls..

The employee said they saw a man walk past, wheeling out his personal belongings on a desk chair after being terminated.

"I've seen three people who went in, and then came back out and left with tears in their eyes," said the employee, who was eventually let into the building. "People behind me are sniffling."

"When I got to work this morning, the building was locked and we needed to swipe badges to get in," the employee said. "Security warned employees not to let people behind them in. Security told us that the procedure would be different today, and they collected our badges and scanned them themselves (rather than having us scan them) and had us wait, lined against the wall, while they were doing so."

Intel are going to lose a lot of the best people who have been working here, making less, because they can work remotely.

If they were smart, they would try a Dell approach and offer pay cuts, freezes, or advancement freezes. They could save 20% from half the people who don't want to drive 2 hours each way. (Or worse)

Badge in times and keystroke data has been used for years already...

Virtual location workers will be the first. Work will be contracted to India for cost savings.

@gx... you forgot "and they all stink..."

Opinions are like a--holes everyone has one.

@ff+1jpzer2zm The cameras are doing facial recognition as you enter and leave.

The badge is just part of it.

The RFID tag in your badge tracks you throughout the facility.

You can choose to believe it or not, but Intel was actually doing all this before it became popular at Amazon and other tech companies. Intel was doing it to catch people who were stealing or otherwise needed to be watched.

They added AI to these systems, which used to just be recorded and lightly monitored.

Amazon is now showing all the other companies what the new AI workplace will be, so read up on how that is going because if you are working at all, it will be in that environment.

May get to a point where you never meet your human manager, kind of like how it is for amazon drivers and warehouse workers now. They work for an app, and the app is paying close attention to what they are doing at all times.

People badge in, but do not badge out so that data is useless to make those types of decisions. Plus it is a privacy violation to go to the personal level. When I worked in Corporate Services, I saw first hand the badge data at the group level and the percentage of those that badge in for a group, but was told it was a privacy violation to go down to a personal level in the system.

@ey+1jpzer2zm People can see that they are working for a company that is slowly becoming irrelevant, and to make it relevant is going to mean making it a lot smaller.

So they come up with stupid lists of other people who should be fired, not willing to accept their fate.

Fact is, the company will get smaller because it is not profitable any more. This is especially true for the fabs, where some of them may be shut down or sold to GF, and those that remain need to be restructured to more closely benchmark typical foundry fabs. So even if they keep their jobs it will be as contract workers.

Add in the extremely rapid adoption of AI in all aspects of the workplace, which is enabling companies to automate the management of workers, and apply compliance at a level that never existed before.

In the very near future if you are not one of those who enable or otherwise manage AI, you are probably no longer a middle class worker.

I could add more about the Board and past mistakes, which everyone sees and knows that they are working for a company that has proven itself to be a loser in multiple market sectors.

All these things are true (and toxic) and the only good answer is to move to a better company, and/or go back to school and get an AI related degree.

Anyone that takes a bit of time to scan the various boards here can see how absolutely toxic Intel is and how toxic and abusive the employees are. Very sad. The new CEO has an impossible task when it comes to fixing Intel culture.

@ee+1 If you really look at what Amazon has done, it will inform you as to what all Tech companies are doing.

They found that some were badging in then leaving the premises, so they started tracking where the workers were using their PC and also started tracking using AI enabled cameras.

Then they started firing those who were violating company policy.

Intel has historically not been as aggressive in HR policies as the megacap tech companies, but you should expect that to change due to the kind of organization that Lip-Bu wants to create.

Even now the company uses RFID tracking of your badge, so it knows where you are. Kind of like what they do with FOUPs but with people, so be careful where you shuttle off to during working hours.

The company has had AI analysis on cameras for some time, mostly for the purpose of catching someone stealing or doing something inappropriate. Every time you go through the entrance your face is being scanned. There is a notification of that on the doors.

Instead of trying to do things that will get you fired, maybe try focusing on the work to be done and how you can add value. That may keep you employed, but that needs to start with not spending all day on this website, because that will get you fired.

It's a choice.

Search for Amazon coffee badging and you will know why badge scan stats do not work.

When everyone worked in office every week day (before Covid-19), if you were not on vacation, badge stats made sense.

@br not one person likes or believes their manager. So shove it

All of the posts are myths, go read to a kindergarten class already, no one believes you

Companies may lay off key experienced employees with good performance records for several reasons, even if it seems counterintuitive. Here are some possible explanations:

Cost-Cutting Measures: Companies often face pressure to reduce costs, especially during economic downturns. They may view layoffs as a way to quickly cut expenses, even if it means losing valuable talent.

Restructuring: Organizations may undergo restructuring to realign their workforce with new strategic goals. This can lead to layoffs of experienced employees if their roles are deemed redundant or if the organization is shifting focus.

Change in Direction: Sometimes, a company may want to bring in new talent with different skills or perspectives that align better with a new direction or strategy, leading them to lay off existing employees and post new job openings.

Performance vs. Fit: While an employee may have a good performance record, they might not fit the new company culture or strategic vision. Layoffs may reflect a shift in what the company values in its workforce.

Temporary Layoffs: In some cases, layoffs may be intended to be temporary, with the intention to rehire later, often at a lower cost or with different contractual terms.

Legal or Financial Reasons: Companies might need to lay off employees to comply with legal requirements or to manage financial issues, even if it means losing key personnel.

Market Perception: Companies may lay off experienced employees to improve their market perception, presenting themselves as leaner or more efficient, which can sometimes lead to re-hiring for similar roles.

Guys , I’m manager at intel for sometime , any of the layoffs that have happened is purely based on performance so far , I’ve been lucky to somehow save all my folks b/c they have been good performers but I’ve been in those discussion where decision is made. Trust me that if you are adding value , productive and no matter from where you work, you will be all fine. This is all assuming that your business unit is not closing bc of some reasons, also I’ve never seen any case so far where high performing companies employee has been laid off … also note in none of the discussions badge scan status was looked at… nobody even discuss about from where you are working , it’s all about value you are adding to team and overall work and productivity.

HR should do this round of the Hunger Games using OKR data.

Anyone who can't sandbag their OKRs so they are always exceeding expectations needs to go, because they are lazy and d-mb.

Kinda like when they used stock grants to help pick who to terminate during ACT, much to the managers deep chagrin.

Hopefully the company can do this like it was done in ACT, with no manager biased input.

Just let HR determine who gets drawn for the latest 'fun' event, then walk them out of the building by the end of that day.

Anyone caught crying in the hallway should also be walked, because there is no crying in Intel.

If the company could just fire those who waste all day on this and other websites, sleep in their cars, hang out in the cafe, and generally don't add value, that would work.

But it is easier to just convert all the nonexempt fab workers into contract labor, lay off many of the exempt workers who were hired as part of 5N4Y, and stop having so many people report to a specific fab in OR and AZ.

That should reduce headcount by at least 30%, with 5% coming from middle management and 15% from the sale or shutdown of useless product groups.

Still, it would be cool to see a bunch of slackers get perp walked by security.

I am in HR and don't really want others to know how we make up the lists, but to tell you that data is ready to go.

Just need to get guidance on the scale of the actions to be taken, then will tell Santa Tan who has been naughty.

Scan status is not the way to go.
If that gets done then more then half of intel be out , there is performance data already locked in system , that will be looked at first , second will be looked at the business that can be trimmed down or sold, Ofcourse they will look into middle management redundancy where cuts can be made, note Tan is not a fool where he will just layoff people seeing scan data and bring critical products in jeopardy, if he does it then it will accelerate intel death/bankrupty , upcoming Xeon and cpu projects are critical for Intel to survive. Again don’t be stupid and spread false info on this channel.

@ad and what about you? Same applies to you regarding job performance and not # of meetings attended ?

I am a manager at Intel. With the exception of Act, I have never had somebody above come down and ell me who to layoff. It's not based on stats or badge activity or any of that. It's solely based on your productivity and value to the company according to the evaluation of the managers. Don't try to game the system. Just do good work and make sure you add value.

There's a lot of trash people on this site who constantly write about how much they enjoy seeing other people losing their jobs. I will enjoy watching that trash lose their own positions as the US economy tanks over the next couple of years and the tech sector sheds employees wholesale. You may not believe it's coming, but it most surely is.

Knowing how intel works i bet none of our cameras work lol

It has been mentioned several times on this site that HR collects all manner of workforce productivity (or lack thereof) and policy compliance data.

This data is used when the company needs to reduce headcount, to target the bottom performers.

BK used this in the ACT reductions with no manager input. People were selected and terminated. Many were terminated for cause, which saves the company money on severance and unemployment.

But hey, keep wasting company time and see for yourself.