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RTO - Truths I know.

There are so many questions about RTO and many wrong assertions. This is what I KNOW based on direct involvement with the process.

  • Badge Swipes IN are tracked and reported. The reports are provided to GL 32 leaders every Monday morning. The report contains the employee, the day and the time of the swipe. It also shows through a conditional format those that are non-compliant
  • In-office duration is NOT tracked. The only way to track duration would be to have exit swipes. Exit swipes will NEVER be required because they violate fire codes in the US. You can't have the doors lock people in.
  • Seats ARE randomly audited but only by "uptight" managers, not as a required practice. I was called out once for not being in my assigned desk. I was actually in the office but opted to use a "huddle room" for work because I was on the phone constantly and the area they had me in was loud with dev teams that had zero to do with my job.
  • People have had "swipe teams". That's groups that get together and each week someone brings everyone's badges into the office and swipes for folks. They trade off week over week. It's common in non-guarded buildings and will 100% get you terminated "with cause". It became evident in my city because the swipe report occasionally show entire groups coming in at the same time everyday for a week. The "swipers" were in other words sloppy. I've seen it.

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Spoke to the security team at the front desk at HQs. They know of multiple people driving up and parking briefly in the front circle, coming in to swipe their badge at the turnstile and turning around and leaving immediately. No one is checking or watching for this. All that counts is badging in. It's currently not an environment where employee rights matter but these periods come in waves so keep the resistance growing as this is bound to pass when great talent quits because of RTO mandates. It's not about collaboration. It's about ego and control over the little people. Fight back with passive resistance. Middle managers don't like RTO either so they are not going to enforce the ridiculous policy.

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Post ID: @ky+1k8kd64pk

Go in and shoot the sh-t with random people. Do zero work. If your boss working remote asks about status of projects, mention you collaborated with their peers or boss in person. The insecurity will overwhelm them and they won't know what to say.

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Post ID: @f0+1k8kd64pk

@ag These guys don't seem like the type that flush.. and their use of TP is questionable.

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Post ID: @ed+1k8kd64pk

@dk

Yup. 'Up to managers to “manage”.' God help us.

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Post ID: @e1+1k8kd64pk

@bp
No the systems isn't however the report formula is based on time entry so if you are on pto you arent in work. This isnt hard math

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Post ID: @dy+1k8kd64pk

@d9 There are reports in MyHR. It lists the employee, the week, and count of days swiped that week. That’s it from what I saw. The manager has to actively go into MrHR and dig for it.

Up to managers to “manage”. I’d assume that more senior leaders (SLT/ELT) get a report sent on folks in their business segment not meeting the 4 day average. Back a few years ago I used to get an emailed report from my senior leader on percentage of swipes for a space planning standpoint to ensure we were able to keep space in various offices.

Just stay off that list and you’ll be fine. Make your manager look bad, and it’ll likely impact your performance review or you’ll get talked to.

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Post ID: @dk+1k8kd64pk

@an
According to my manager, direct report managers are getting attendance/swipe in reports and the manager has to submit some sort of exception to these for PTO, snow days, sick days or whatever-reason the employee can't make it to the office. Unlike time sheets, in which the employee has control of entering their time and PTO. these attendance/swipe in reports are the responsibility of the manager and we as the employee have no visibility to this process. We cannot see if our manager forgot to enter our 'exception' or entered it incorrectly. If the manager is themselves out on PTO or has a sudden illness and cannot enter exceptions for us, what are the repercussions to the employee? Is this a "three strikes you're out-affects yearly review" as with late time sheets? My own manager doesn't know the answer to this. It appears we as employees are supposed to surrendering control to this black box. Keep all email communications regarding office absences. Are emails good enough to get mistakes reversed? Who knows.

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Post ID: @d9+1k8kd64pk

@bj so the system is smart enough to know if you're on PTO?

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Post ID: @bp+1k8kd64pk

@an PTO isn't work time

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Post ID: @bj+1k8kd64pk

How do they factor PTO in?

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Post ID: @an+1k8kd64pk

I would make you swipe to flush and get TP if it were my company. You guys are getting off easy.

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Post ID: @ag+1k8kd64pk

Is there an official RTO date?

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Post ID: @af+1k8kd64pk

@a6

Nope. Basically be there no longer than it takes for the swipe to register. I'm not wasting 4 hours in an office for no reason.

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Post ID: @a8+1k8kd64pk

@a6
Before I was converted to FT Telecommuter I would drive to the office, go to my floor in our tower, swipe in. Go to the kitchen and get a coffee to go and head home. Never ever sat down or anything. I never even brought my laptop.

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Post ID: @a7+1k8kd64pk

So basically just work half days

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Post ID: @a6+1k8kd64pk

This is an accurate post.

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