Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@yc lol EXACTLY! NOBODY is truly working 8 hours/day. NOBODY. Realistically 99% of people are working a solid 20-30 hours/week of actual work. I'd say 30 hours is a stretch actually.

The people who keep saying "work your shift or gtfo" or bla bla bla are just bitter they have a manager onsite who is forcing them to BE in office 8 hours/day. If those people had the choice or chance to work at home, they 100% would.

@a4 lol I promise you, they don't. I'd 100% know about it if this was true. EVERY single piece of software that dell has requires something called a firewall rule. Basically, everything is blocked by default until explicitly "allowed" via firewall rules.

Since Dell doesn't operate on a "flat network" that means a program such as this would 100% require firewall rules to even operate. It'd also require it's own VLAN which would need to be created on a slew of devices. Meaning that it wouldn't be a "secret" program lol.

Pretend these weren't needed and/or it was named something ultra inconspicous... I guarentee someone will figure out what the .exe is via research lol. Task manager is a great place to start since you can kinda see what is utilizing xyz amount of network bandwidth..

Long story short, this doesn't exist. What DOES exist are logs of when someone connects to an internal Dell IP range, which is managed by the VPN/firewalls and those logs are also sent to SPLUNK. But no, there is no "program" that is installed that does what you claim.

@y9 all yall arguing to work 9-5 or gtfo are d-mb as bricks. Guarantee most people's job here is not that crazy to warrant 9-5, which is why people would sooner work from home and have a better qol. Quit licking boot and look in the mirror

Even though there is no such thing as a "pay gap" between men and women with the SAME job... There are plenty of people who think there is and for those people, THIS is exactly why there could be one - even though there actually isn't.

You have kids, so effin what? You aren't the only one with kids. So because you are a woman with kids you think you are special and get to leave at 2pm while everyone else has to stay till 5pm? Figure it out. Hire a baby sitter/nanny, maybe husband needs to leave early sometimes, put your kid in after school care, have a friend or neighbor watch kid for a little bit, etc...

It's NOT dell's problem though. I have a dog who likes to go on a walk every 3-4 hours. I don't get to leave early because I have to go walk my dog lol. I take her on an extra long walk before I leave, give her some food and she's gotta entertain herself for a few hours... alone.

Your manager/org clearly wants you there 8 hours/day so yeah, do that? My director/org dgaf how long we are in office but does care about badge swipes. I go in daily but am there from 10am-12:30pm. As are most people I work with.

I hate to tell ya but, kids aren't a companies problem. In fact, nothing in your personal life is their problem. You were hired to do a job and if you can't perform that job due to xyz reason(s) then, you may be shown the door. If your manager isn't willing to work with you then that su-ks but, ultimately when you signed the contract on day 1 of employment, you agreed to a work schedule and well... those contracts are pretty well written to avoid lawsuits.

I'd be willing to bet that there are quite a few people who pretend they "have kids" simply to get out of work for "school functions" and things like that, as well... they aren't going to verify you have kids or not lol. I suppose your W-2 tax statements would prove otherwise but those get sent out by machines, not humans.

Either way, your kids are YOUR kids; not Dell's kids. Find a way to deal with it or quit... or get laid off.

Me and Spanish Johnny do the E Street Shuffle right over those RF readers.

It’s not the badging…..next time you roll in after a 50 minute commute cranking on some vintage Boss, look down at the raised RF readers you cross on the ground. Then look again when you leave the cattle barn

@nk bro chill tf out. Just leave early. Why does everyone gotta suffer because ur a hardass

You’ll have a hard time getting sympathy because you have to leave early, come in late, take a two hour lunch because you have kids while those of us without children have to cover for you. This has been happening to me and my wife in our different jobs since the 80s.

Yeah, I get it. Kids get sick, school gets cancelled. But it is your responsibility to make arrangements for regular childcare, or school transportation that does not require your coworkers being inconvenienced.

I'm calling BS on this post tbh...

They obviously can track when you badge IN but have no way of knowing when you leave for the day. The ONLY place I know of that you HAVE to badge out is at a data center. You literally can't leave unless you swipe your badge. Office buildings though? Badge in and that's that.

The only thing I can think of is that they "can" - which I HIGHLY doubt they do - is track if your computer is connected to a DELL internal IP address which would be 10.188/187/189/154/xyz. I forget what the internal IP range/network is for Dell Corp but essentially, if your intenal IP address isn't within the DELL network, then you obviously are not in the office. Your home IP uses a public IP which won't be a 10.x.x.x, and same with if you are using a phone hotspot.

Even at that though, what if you go to idk, chilis for lunch and work? Your public IP changes... say you are there for an hour or two... then go back to office and get a dell IP again, then an hour later go sit outside and the wifi is garbage so you use a phone hotspot instead. Dell WiFi is GARBAGE! Especially GUEST WiFI - for FED users lol.

Every program that is running on your computer will show up in task manager. The only real way - there are others - is to rename the .exe to something common (idk, chrome.exe or something) but even at that, chances are very high SOMEONE will dig deeper and figure out that xyz app is not what it seems to be due to it's high utilization of network resources lol.

All in all, there isn't a good way for Dell to track your "in office" time. At least not one that wouldn't cost money and well, Dell aint' gonna spend money on that lol.

I’ve not been in the office in about 3 months! I have a customer facing role - we are trusted and have flexibility to work when we like

When you get to a Dell facility, the system automatically logs you in when you start to use your laptop for work. Therefore, it knows when you are effectively at the Dell facility. When you leave, same process, they see you logging out. It isn't rocket science. If they are using network login to monitor you, they already know. I would hazard a guess that they are monitoring your keystrokes. I am sure they are using it for future layoffs.

Managers are walking the floors looking for the johnny punch clocks.

@ce That depends on the office. As someone that has been to a few, there are definitely places where you have to swipe your badge both when you arrive and leave in order to get in and out.

It turns out all of those Elf on the Shelf figurines aren’t just decorations.

@bc all the down voters did so not because they don’t think the comment is true. They downvoted because they don’t like the fact that it’s true. Shutting down facts that are inconvenient to one’s desires is what has destroyed this country. Downvote 1000 times out of. It will still be true.

Dell turns into a ghost town by 3pm. I don’t know what you’re seeing, but the managers are already halfway home before that. Hard to enforce standards you don’t follow yourself.

Fake!!!. We don't do badge log out. How your manager knows when you leave office?

Brace for year end reviews written by AI explaining why you didn’t qualify for a raise.

Pips will be in play Q1 to thin out the herd.
Mangers in central and west have started with the idle threats of being replaced.
I invite anyone in RR to walk manager row by JM RR bld3 1st floor. Mangers watching YouTube most of the day. Untangled xmas lights for 2 hours earlier in the week.

@bd This I actually can believe.

Rumor has it they will start using performance management in Q1

I always chuckle when people complain about how work interferes with caring for their kids. Everyone has occasions where they need to step out for family matters but that should not be a daily occurrence. You are either working full time or you are caring for your kids. You can’t do both—and you especially can’t do both well.

If I had a nickel for every excuse someone has for not coming into the office, I’d be retired by now.

Conform or it will end in your demise.

It’s hard for me to get the full 8 hours. My manager doesn’t seem to really care as long as I try. I’m definitely not stimulating the economy - I barely have time to grab lunch, let alone go out for it.

Yeah gotta say this post is bs. I dont know anyone logging full days in office. Why bother if the team is mostly remote anyways and I get my stories done while napping at home. Dell doesnt pay high enough to warrant a full day in office. Coffee badge and take ur midday nap in peace, you'll do better.

My manager hasn’t been very clear about whether tracking is actually happening, so I can’t say for sure. What I have been told more than once is that eight hours onsite is the expectation. I don’t know if everyone’s sticking to it, but judging by the parking lot, many seem worried about their jobs.

It's called a bus. All schools have them. Stop being cheap and pay for it if you're not eligible for free bussing.

I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $500, Alex

Bottom line = dell sux

They let go an entire group that was in the office 40+ hours a week(including Covid). Completing hundreds of task and shoulder tap request. Believe me no one cares about your badge in. If they did that team would still be here

@ae Deadweight fragile losers crying about DEI should be the first to go.

Corporate America no longer wants people with children, get those little ones into daycare or hire a nanny.

Dell has a sea of middle-aged, bald dudes (90%), then a token handful of DEI hires and a couple fresh-out-of-college energy drinks walking around. None of which are working 8 hours a day. People are just ignoring the mandate, they can’t fire everyone.

So many women are being forced out of the workforce right now. It’s being called a “she-cession”. All these negative comments are from men.

90 percent of team would get laid ogg. Including the senior directors

@OP Your kid's are your problem not Dell's. People have figured out how to get their kids rides to and from school without interfering with work since the 1970s. Time to get with the program.

@a4 Yeah but it's not very sophisticated. I leave my laptop in the office playing some 12 hours YouTube video and it shows I was "active" the entire time.

I’ll believe it when anyone I know gets a warning about 8 hours.