No and its unhealthy to think there still is
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Glimmer of hope, yes.
Is anyone asking this question on www.thelaoff.com/nvdia
No.
Why? They are busy working and putting the final nail in intels coffin.
That should give you the answer.
This is now completely out of Intel’s control being that they are 60+ billion in debt. They will be sold off piece by piece until they become a fabless subsidiary of either Broadcom or Marvell. I’m thinking the last chance they had was to strike a deal with Qualcomm or Broadcom in 2022/2023 but Gelsinger sc--wed that up also. He should’ve never built out Ohio, which I believe will be bought by Samsung. They’ll need the capacity to fab Elon’s products. A company cannot survive more than 2 bad CEO’’s in a row. Our downfall started with Craig Barrett, and ended with Gelsinger. Ta-g is just a placeholder.
No, too many woke managers
But we do have unquestioned leadership. Do you think it’s wise to question our leaders?
I heard that someone who has never opened a VNC or Linux terminal in past several years was made a fellow recently because they can communicate and drive Task Forces that make dubious claims. So, no there is no hope, if history is right (read IBM, Sun, Cisco etc) Intel will be struggling to survive by 2026.
There’s always hope, some people believe in Bigfoot & the earth is flat. Logic says there is no hope for Intel to return to a leadership position.
There’s no fixing this.
Intel just doesn’t have the talent any longer.
Pat had a goal of unquestioned leadership by 2025. How did that work out?
Def met leadership will lead us through this!
Hopeless. Using layoff as a future strategy just shows the hopeless.
The VPs are too non-technical and lavk of knowledge. If you talk to a VP to make a decision, they have no knowledge. I again and again found the HOPELESS after working with the VPs.
- Defang finance guys. Their spreadsheet analysis and risk aversion has cost big time. Apple foundry oppty, ARM investments, media, online services.
- Overtime, intel has evolved very risk averse by choosing committee based decision making. In meetings with kwy customers 20 intel employees wont commit to somwthing that 2 from google or amazon will commit. Intel needs to break rhis culture and emoower experts to make decision and have the associated risk/reward.
- Intel managers are purely HR roles with technical expertise vaning based on their length in managerial roles. Expend with this role and make tech leaders manage.
Fix these, and intel could emerge successful in a decade.
The hope is on an orderly disintegration.
get rid of most useless managers first
@ck There's plenty of money if we get rid of the fu---n managers.
There was a chance....if the last round of layoff had been done without such bloated redundancy packages.. Finances were fragile as it is. Now there is no money left to invest for a future.
LBT needs hire a Feng Shui master.
Will the money run out before the luck comes in?
Yes, there is a path.
Intel, as it is now, is broken up-ish.
Intel corporate becomes a holding company
CCG, DCAI, NEX, Foundry all get spun out with Intel Corporate maintaining at least 51%
Foundry sites, except for development sites, all become JV with customers - Intel/Apple/Broadcom/etc. Likely with an absolute focus on Packaging technologies
Anything else and Intel goes bankrupt and is sold off in pieces.
@b8 Nepotism of managers. If they have the word manager in their title, gut them like a pig.
Best outcome is a split of foundry and products. Foundry will have to build stuff with old tech and sell those. Maybe TI, Marvel and the likes will become customers. Product side will be able to provide competitive new non-Intel products and things outside laptops. The product portfolio will be richer and more compelling using ARM, NVIDIA, and AMD parts.
No.
@bc No, fire the Sr PE's too.
Basically there is a number employees in process and design that have been carrying the company for many years. These are Sr. PEs down to gr 5s. Directly they probably are under 5000 + 5000 and have a other 5000 that directly support them. Just identify these employees. The remaining employees need to be micromanaged by AI and sent packing ro reduce HC while increasing HC in primary functions. Obviously thousands of manufacturing workers are needed. Take a weedwacker to all VPs above with no value/merit. Completely chop the head off and replace the top 300-500 executives with 300 that know wtf they are doing. Take Intel private so major shareholders can't bi--h about this bc they are the ones who put us here with the installed UPPER management team.
@OP NO, Intel has been incompetent and shameless, only wanting "Zero-Dollar Shopping". It has evolved into a beggar asking Biden and Trump for money, and recently it wants to ask Apple, Nvidia, and TSMC for money, and Intel has lied to investors about their product yield rates and schedule.
Hope, wish, dream, pray... take your pick they are all free. They don't deliver much but they make people feel better so I guess that makes them worthwhile. I wish you luck and hope that you find the job of your dreams and pray that you take it.
Nepotism of VPs, Directors, PEs, Senior PEs, Fellows doomed any hope
Looks tough ahead for Intel survival
Define hope. If you mean going back to what it once was: no. But it will not disappear. How small it goes will depend on how much longer they want to keep being a fab: the longer they wait to get rid of that, the more the company will suffer.
I've long been an Intel booster. Long time user of Intel products, long time stockholder.
It seems to me that everything hinges on foundry getting major customers. If that doesn't happen, the house is done.
Intel microprocessors, while still more power-hungry than Arm, are generally more capable at handling very heavy workloads. That edge is great, except they share that market with AMD, and I'm not convinced the design half of Intel can keep the ship afloat now.
There is hope if you are a well-connected middle manager with friends in high places.
For the rest, it's 996 until the inevitable happens in 3-4 years.
LBT is 65, he's just waiting to make a few more paydays for next few years and then it's chop shop for Intel to sell it's parts to others.
I don't believe OP has any hopium for Intel.
There is a LOT of hope… I mean that’s probably the only thing left…. Future on the other hand not so much
Yes, lots of hope. That’s the problem. We’d all be happier if we could just cut losses and move on with life. 996 is unnecessary when there’s no hope.
Highest level Intel said, we pound sand into chips, think about it. The army of Indian and Chinese they created, didn’t bring much to the table.
Lots of hope. Just smaller at 40k people and not a leader anymore.
I still have hope... we will see the return of free bananas by q4 of this year
Absolutely. Different company but hope.
I want to believe
Nahh.. nobody cares anymore..
only if you still work there, then maybe you care maybe?
Rope