Thread regarding Optum layoffs

"You must build an AI Feature every quarter"

Anyone else get this mandate this week from their manager as a SWE? I dont understand how this is even possible or how it can sustain itself. I asked my manager if we have any ideas or plans for what any customer or user would want in an AI feature, he said no, but leadership wants to see AI, so we as engineers need to come up with something. ??? Isnt that products job?

The only "AI feature" we have made as a team in 3 years is an internal RAG chatbot that reads our docs. Some guy also added AI code review because management made him. Thats it. And no one uses any of it, ever.

So how are we gonna make a feature every quarter until the end of time? Eventually we will run out of places to cram it, even if these features go in smoothly (they wont). This place has gotten absolutely insane.


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@b6 Found Sandeep.

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The march off the cliff continues. They are so obviously desperate. It’s like watching panicking id--ts. They know theirs a problem but instead of rationalizing ways to solve it they just flail around.

In the movie Idiocracy towards the end the main character Joe is going to use a Time Machine to go back to just time. The people say there are more problems than just the crops dying, they need help fixing the nuclear reactors and a bunch of other things. One of the id--ts speaks up and says, “I know we’ll put toilet water on it” which was the solution to the dying crops.

Our leaders are the id--ts of the movie, toilet water is their AI solutions. They are desperate and incapable of solving problems.

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Post ID: @b7+1khbcxpcy

@az go back to watching your P and stop talking cr-p about other people.

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Post ID: @b6+1khbcxpcy

Queue up the AI chatbots.

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Post ID: @b0+1khbcxpcy

@ab That IS hilarious. A few questions:

Is your coworker’s initials SD?

Was he sad when he ran out of tokens for his anime AI girlfriend?

Did said girlfriend have better insight into the industry than the rotting fossil currently in the CEO chair?

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Post ID: @az+1khbcxpcy

@ap My understanding is that management more or less offer suggestions when it comes to compensation and promotions but at the end of the day org leaders, with less or no understanding of what lower level employees are contributing, can play around with them if they don't like the numbers.

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Post ID: @aq+1khbcxpcy

The TDP program stopped automatically promoting to GL27 after graduation, but the TDPer's manager/org could still promote the individual. The only difference is that instead of it being an automatic promotion, it is now up to the manager's discretion.

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Post ID: @ap+1khbcxpcy

Wait what, they stopped promoting TDP out of associate level??? Thats insane.

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Post ID: @aj+1khbcxpcy

@a3 They could have people who are able to validate IT quality. They most certainly could have had them.

But engineers who build real products that people genuinely use don't get rewarded, they get moved. Or they get replaced. Or they leave once they come to this realization. They don't move up, not into leadership roles at least where they can have positive impact. Their management and their leaders get the recognition, but they effectively stay as a grunt.

A similar thing happened with TDPers, they stopped promoting them to being engineers. They stopped allowing them to grow at this company. And when the company does that, these bright minds find work elsewhere instead or they quiet quit.

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Post ID: @ac+1khbcxpcy

My teammate prompted too much and is locked out until next month, which is hilarious. Guess he cant build his AI feature now?

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Post ID: @ab+1khbcxpcy

Ditto. If only I had a dollar for every worthless AI demo

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Post ID: @aa+1khbcxpcy

Who is bearing the compute cost for these features? Is it us paying for tokens or Microsoft?

I’d love to ask these dipsh-ts to show a CBA. Where do the savings come in when it costs 8 dollars to make one dollar of AI value.

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Post ID: @a7+1khbcxpcy

Yeah, i could easily see offshore faking results to meet the mandate, and then people who actually were trying to build real AI products being blamed for the tech having no real use case here, while the fake app that doesnt work is praised. Seen it too many times, no one in leadership knows how to validate IT quality, all they know his hiring consultants.

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Post ID: @a3+1khbcxpcy

It's re--rded, weak-willed yes-men (and yes-women) all the way down at this company. These mandates come because nobody with a meaningful role speaks up against it. Either because they're a bi--h or because they're cognitively impaired.

Then you have offshore who exaggerates their work and the impacts of it, who drone on and on about literally nothing to make it seem like their work was important. The teams that lie about what they made and how useful it is. And when you have people who do this, it makes it seem to these id--ts up at the top that these mandates ARE realistic, that these mandates do produce results, and that offshore is accomplishing quite a lot actually.

When anyone without brain worms knows that none of that is the case.

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