Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Too far gone and we're all to blame!

I remember that working remotely allowed many of us to watch Netflix instead of doing work. Some even bragged about how little work was being done in a week.

After covid, our competition returned to the office and some worked long hours. We continually worked hybrid and did house chores during work hours. A coworker took ISP and went to AMD; was surprised at how hard they were working.

Hiring new people and having them work remotely was insane. The new hires were basically left on their own, and they struggled with their tasks. When they failed and the project slipped, a task force was formed. Big department rewards were given to management and individuals on the task force for fixing the problem. The problem shouldn't have happened in the first place.

I survived, because I know how to stay quiet and step up to work when needed. I don't do a lot, but am there when my management needs me. Yes, I'm kissing a-s and coming to save their butt when needed. Eventually, as I'm nearing retirement, I'm hoping for a package and take the last year off. Neither I or my management are willing to work hard for a miracle turnaround. Many have signed up for this plan; one reason why some of the younger members were let go. Also, some of the younger ones couldn't keep quiet and started making some of us look bad; they had to go.

There was no desire to have projects succeed, as it was easier to work on projects that never matured and were eventually canceled. Finalizing a marketable product requires a lot of hard work. I also did my powerpoints and to make my part look good; this is how it worked from my level all the way to VP level. We became pros at the powerpoint dog and pony shows.

Talking with us that have survived this round, 98% of us feel the boat will sink and will be saved from fully sinking at the last minute by a buyer who will buy the company at 10 cents on the dollar.

A rant and honest truth of how my org of thousands worked.

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Post ID: @OP+1k07agdgm

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@f2 of course you work in Arizona lol, explains everything. Engineer for a fab that su-ked a-s at supporting and producing the sh-tshow 10nm and has no current mfg process to support.

Checks out

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Post ID: @fa+1k07agdgm

I don't believe OP is such a Quitter Troll.

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Post ID: @f9+1k07agdgm

@f2 you clearly have no idea how TSMC operates. It’s a meat grinder with full onsite presence everyday. We get it though, you’d rather lay in bed and look at a few SPC charts looking for OOCs and call that developing a process

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Post ID: @f8+1k07agdgm

@ch TSMC engineers/techs only go into the fab for specific purposes if they're truly needed to fix a hardware issue or to run a manual test, not just to hang out randomly for the sake of in-fab presence. You don't know this industry, why are you here? If you're in Arizona let's meet up and I could teach you a thing or two :)

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Post ID: @f2+1k07agdgm

Speak for yourself. I'm Mr. Terrific

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Post ID: @cn+1k07agdgm

@aw "going into the fab causes more particles/defects"... lol that has to be the weakest excuse I've ever head to justify not going to the fab. You know what else causes particles/defects? A sh-t process being troubleshot by a bunch of engineers laying in bed.

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Post ID: @ch+1k07agdgm

@bc being laid off does

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Post ID: @bd+1k07agdgm

@bb Because someone getting a big raise just screams "low performer." (eye roll)

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Post ID: @bc+1k07agdgm

@b4 or maybe you’re being delusional and you weren’t actually that good of a performer, or weren’t efficient and spent 3x as long doing tasks than others

Food for thought

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Post ID: @bb+1k07agdgm

@b4 had his head so far up his own @ss that he forgot the most important aspects of his job

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Post ID: @ba+1k07agdgm

@OP Honestly you sound like a terrible employee...aka the perfect Intel employee. Work as little as possible, produce as little as possible, su-k up to your manager, manipulate people & play the game to keep your job.

My experience working remotely was much different. It meant being available most of the time. Early mornings? check. Late evenings? check. Weekends? checkaroo. Did I manage to run an errand or two during the day? Sure. But overall Intel was getting about 60-70 hours a week out of me. And not slacking off hours like you mention. I'm talking putting out fires time. I was highly productive, successful, and respected. My last review was glowing, with an EE and a nice raise. But what I wasn't good at is what you talk about; su-king up, playing the game. I was too focused on getting things done worry about stuff like that. And for my trouble I got laid off. But you know what, me getting laid off says a lot more about the low character of my manager than it does about me.

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Post ID: @b4+1k07agdgm

hoses bees lions

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Post ID: @ax+1k07agdgm

@av Hello, I appreciate your sp---y attitude but no fab employees hired during COVID were 100% remote as far as I'm aware. I and all of my cohort hired in late 2021 were trained in the fab for months and have always been expected to visit periodically. Remote work is great for days where we focus on process issues, data analysis, and basically anything that doesn't require actual hardware work.

Going into the fab for the sake of it just adds more particles/defects. You clearly don't work here or are a salty low performer who got laid off. Please go outside and touch grass.

Additionally, much of this company is focused on chip design which can be done entirely remote much like many of the engineers at NVIDIA (the most valuable semi company). Even if fab employees were forced to obey the cult of RTO, for what reason should they return?

You're not thinking clearly. Again, go touch grass and meet new friends. There's more to life than getting on your knees for LBT. He's not going to let you hit, unfortunately.

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Post ID: @aw+1k07agdgm

@a9 maybe for established employees that’s true, but Intel massively hired tons of engineers during COVID… do you really think these people were being trained effectively? How many engineers worked at Intel during this years-long era and never even went into the fab to see how their tools run? You’re delusional to think that being 100% remote (for new employees especially) had no impact or that their productivity was the same as someone who was trained onsite and in the fab.

We get it though, you don’t want to lose your WFH perk so you keep parroting The Studies(TM) that show people are even more productive at home! Maybe rhat was true for the first year of COVID lockdown, but it’s definitely not the case across the board

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Post ID: @av+1k07agdgm

...as in TD Ameritrade?

= )

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Post ID: @at+1k07agdgm

Nice fanfic LARP, if you mentioned basketball somewhere I'd assume this was LBT himself coping over his outdated onsite fetish. Grow up, most high end tech companies support remote work nowadays to attract high end talent.

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Post ID: @as+1k07agdgm

Speaking as somebody who remained on site during covid, we absolutely saw many people clearly slacking off during WFH. Not everyone, maybe half. Some slowed way down (on tasks not impacted by being at home), but some fell off the planet, getting just enough done to not be obvious. Always mysteriously blocked, answering IM’s and emails twice a day, etc. Their favorite trick was to fire off an email to on of us asking for urgent help, then turning on a mouse jiggler for the next 4 hours. Green in teams, but never replies to an IM. Always the same people.

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Post ID: @ar+1k07agdgm

@a4 I think he's in TD because I see his points glaringly obvious there. WTH are they doing because they sure aren't executing on time

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Post ID: @ab+1k07agdgm

this is a troll, why are you bothering to write this

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Post ID: @aa+1k07agdgm

Studies don't show any evidence of significant productivity differences between remote vs onsite work, you're just making this up.

Additionally you're literally lying about our competitors all doing RTO. NVIDIA is well known for being remote friendly and I know several folks there who can attest to this.

Be smarter, it's not that hard.

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Post ID: @a9+1k07agdgm

I mentored a new hire who, on 5th day said he wanted to work independently. Never wanted to come to office even once a week and chose to be 100% remote. His productivity was 50% of what would have been expected.

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Post ID: @a8+1k07agdgm

Looks like the Quitter Troll is having second thoughts about quitting and instead is just gonna troll about it some more.

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Post ID: @a7+1k07agdgm

I learned it very early that the way to get recognition is to work on a task force. No one will care about how it got messed up to the point where it requires a task force. If you do a good job and be diligent that your component has no critical bugs that needs firefighting, you would never get recognized. You just met the expectation. If you mess up and worked day and night to ungate some product milestone, you were a hero ! It was an inverted reward system.

I was so frustrated with this reward system that I even questioned with my manager with examples at that time who I according to me was a good manager. He agreed with me, but there was nothing he could do about it. He is no longer at Intel though.

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Post ID: @a5+1k07agdgm

I don't believe OP ever worked for Intel.

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Post ID: @a4+1k07agdgm

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