I am paying nearly 30% more for my commute every week, and that’s in my econobox of a ten year old Toyota. I asked my boss if I could WFH one or two days a week. His response was su-k it up, “You don’t hear the people driving those 4WD trucks and SUVs complaining, do you?”
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@118 anyone who thinks there job is safe is a fool. No one guaranteed anything. Did they get paid for the hours worked ? thats whats owed,grow up
@fm You’re wrong.
An employer owes you respect.
Don’t lie to them and tell them their jobs are safe and then turn around and start a massive layoff campaign.
@r8 good for you bro.
Enjoy the walk!
OP here.
My problems are over. I just got a new job at a company that I can walk to. More money, different industry. When I went in for an interview I saw all the computers were Macs. I asked if the lack of Mac experience would be a problem. She said no, I accepted the offer.
Best of luck to most of the people who posted on this thread. To the others who think they owe the company their soul and have sniped at my complaint… Sc--w you!
@OP Congratulations you've demonstrated the basic math skills most Americans master in Kindergarten.
No one is entitled to a darn thing when you work for a company. Stop with these useless posts. It won't change a friggin' thing.
More 20 somethings trying to deal with an "unfair world".
we all forget who works for whom. We don't make the rules, we follow them...and if you don't like it, you can leave and follow someone else's rules. Simple as that.
@av No they owe you them nothing and to think otherwise is delusional. If not happy go elsewhere. Dell is not making you stay
@a2 Uphill, both ways, and it snowed everyday, right?
We live in a new age. The age that those of us in tech have worked to achieve over the past few decades. Work from anywhere, collaborate easily on line, cheap communication internationally… Yet some want to keep the old ways of driving into the office every day, stay until the boss says you can leave, smile, and do it all again the next day.
early morning meetings with India is a prime example. I'm not rushing in for 7:00 am, but then I do have to go in around 9:30 when my meetings are over so it does mess up the work day groove. Then my US meetings start at that time so there is no real good time to commute in. It leads to burnout and frustration actually.
@a2 Awe. Look at you. We’ve come a long way since the days of fax machines. The reality is, we are a global company. Global. That means we are working most of the time with people around the globe, not even present in the office we sit in. If you’re working in the office, on teams meetings all day, physically being there is not collaboration. It’s a distraction. Probably netting 3-4hrs less of productivity daily between the commute and distractions. It made sense years ago before technology. Makes zero sense now.
I’m guessing this conversation never happened .
Don’t like it? Quit. Find a new job at a company that has WFH.
We all know Dell is pushing this as an agenda. WFH is unlikely to return, so cut your loses.
Is that the sound your tongue makes as it licks those corporate boots? Of all things you could have been, you decided to be a company simp. You must be so proud of yourself...
whaa whaaa whaaa....
I feel your pain. I Drive 60 miles one way everyday. I have a hybrid Honda civic. But commute costs alone are roughly 20k a year based on IRS calculations. Too bad I cant write that off.
You corporate su-kup
And the biggest bootlickers, too. Just look in the mirror, champ.
If Dell were to allow any WFH, other than previous arrangements, it might be seen by the Trump administration as a criticism of their policies that caused gas to go way up. And MD cannot be seen as a Trump critic.
Your manager/Daddy put you in your place. Obey or you will be given a permanent time-out
@a2 - I'd say they depends on how they were hired. If they were hired during covid as 100% remote, the salary they negotiated took into account the lack of a commute. Dell has changed that deal now. You don't think those folks have a right to feel a little pi---d? I negotiate/expect 20% higher salary to be in the office.
If they were hired onsite, and went remote during covid, they have nothing really to complain about, but Dell hired a ton of people full time remote during covid and has spent the last 2 years trying to sc--w them into quitting. That's a problem, and even the "get back in the office" types should be able to recognize that.
Dell has the biggest snowflakes working for them.
@a4 Carpooling isn’t what it used to be. I remember carpooling in the early 90s with three other people working at different companies but in the same 496 industrial park. Unfortunately, work started to change. Bosses forgot about the 9-5 model and mine thought he was a genius and began scheduling an 8:00am Friday meeting at the office “so we could meet without interruptions”. So I was on my own Friday’s
One of the other pooler’s had a boss who liked to drop things on her desk at 4:50pm and wanted to review her work at 9:00 the next day. We often found ourselves waiting for her to get the work done. (Her complaint to her HR dept was met with “You have to have priorities.)
One of the IT people in our pool could no longer count on leaving at 5:00 and often had to extend his day because some executive couldn’t figure out how to load paper in the printer. Calculating how much we all had to contribute to split the rides became a calculation per day, not per week.
It just became impractical and our arrangement fell apart. I’m retiring soon so it’s not a big deal to me. I’m told there are sites that can arrange car pools, but I’m not sure how effective they are.
And lord knows, we all should remain forever frozen in time. Nothing like desperately clinging to outmoded practices, to propel this company forward into the future...
I was driving 100 miles each day in my 97 Ford F250. $1K in fuel each month. I woke up one morning and thought....wow...really? I bought a used Hondo Civic running on natural gas. POS car (gov't pool car...not taken care of) but it saved me thousands.
In the sense of doing it right, you are driving a commuter car. What about car pooling? Ask around to see if anyone else is coming from your direction? I also took my own lunch and drinks.
My 97 Ford is in the garage. I still drive it on occasion. I have a newer Civic natural gas. When I first started driving it the fuel was sub dollar. Filled it last week...$3/g So mileage is about the same with CNG, but fuel is a bit cheaper.
But remember, your president tells us that we don't mind the higher prices.....funny how the wealthy don't seem to mind as much.
There was a time in my life when I drove to and from work five days a week 35 miles each way. There was no WFH option then, as your manager said, su-k it up!