Thread regarding Edward Jones layoffs

Hard to be loyal to Edward Jones, left to a competitor and should have done it sooner.

I started with Edward Jones in 2018 and left in 2024; I am White male with a degree in finance and two of the big professional designations. Because of DEI, I never received a Good Knight, was never approached about an RTP, and never got my own office. All the while I noticed that EJ catered to the "lowest common denominator" and gave all kinds of assets/handouts, RTPs and offices to "persons of color" (an Edward Jones' term), female FA's and the "alphabet community". All to check the box of DEI, and I can say with the fullest of confidence, it was far from earned. For those of you who do not know if an FA shares/gives assets to a person who fits the DEI mold, the giving FA receives an additional 10% compensation. They seem to predominantly hire ill-educated, sales type people.

The training was a joke; it was all sales based. I never received legit training directly related to financial planning, investment analysis, portfolio management, etc. I learned all of that on my own through designations like the CFP, CIMA, and CFA Level 1. The culture is definitely a "cult" and talk about "fake friendships". It was definitely a weird social environment. Early on I stopped taking TAP trips, going to summer Regionals, and all of the other mindless meeting/events that EJ holds. I forgot to mention, I was offered a failing office from an FA that was terminated. I knew that FA and I knew how horrible to book was managed and wanted to nothing to do with it. I turned it down and they took it SO personal. If I would have fit the DEI mold, I would have been handed a "gold mine". I saw that on many occasions. It didn't really bother me, I believe in a meritocracy. I wonder how the clients would feel about it??

Anyways, I built a book from zero to Level 9, producing $850,000 in a 6-year time period. I took a million dollar check to transfer to a sophisticated firm and have transferred 85% of my book. The remaining 15% can stay put for all I care. It is nice to be around legitimately educated people who understand capital markets, investment management, and financial planning. This firm values quality over quantity and there is zero DEI cr-p. If you have formal education in finance, economic, business, etc, EJ is not the place for you. I stayed for longer than I should have due the COVID lockdown. That slowed my exit by about 2 years.


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Post ID: @OP+1kdnt31yk

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Not only was there a second class action lawsuit, but PP decided to roll back the DEI initiatives at the firm early last year. They worked SO well, EJ saw a 1% increase in "people of color" brokers and a 1% increase in "people of color" GPs, falling WAY short of their stated "diversity goals".

I wonder how many of that 1% are black since "people of color" can encompass anyone of color.

How's DEI to blame when there hasn't been any DEI initiatives since last year? Still waiting for others to post sources of their DEI claims.

https://www.advisorhub.com/edward-jones-cancels-incentive-for-transferring-accounts-to-women-minorities/

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Post ID: @z8+1kdnt31yk

@wp that's interesting you’ve observed this. Have you ever seen the demographics for EJ and their leader representation for women? They definitely aren't "people of color". I wonder if this "DEI hiring" kicked in before or after the class action lawsuit for racial discrimination? There's really no diversity here especially among the women, so I'm surprised you feel there are DEI hires. If there was really diversity why would they need to place initiatives? https://www.advisorhub.com/edward-jones-sets-2025-diversity-targets-for-advisors-executive-ranks/

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Post ID: @z3+1kdnt31yk

@w4 the article is not just EJ. While it may be accurate throughout the US, my observation at EJ is a lot of black women benefit from DEI.

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Post ID: @wp+1kdnt31yk

@vz that's fine we can agree to disagree. But if you can find stats showing otherwise I'm open to viewing. I wonder if s8 will reveal what type of woman got that role. Also who happens to be our CEO?https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/06/29/affirmative-action-who-benefits-white-women/70371219007/

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Post ID: @w4+1kdnt31yk

@tw. While I don’t disagree it is women, I would disagree that it is white women.

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Post ID: @vz+1kdnt31yk

@s8 sounds like a certain people are the true DEI hires. https://www.miamitimesonline.com/business/studies-show-white-women-benefit-more-from-dei-than-black-people/article_f0bb761e-334c-4151-832d-f3fa0026531a.html

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Post ID: @tw+1kdnt31yk

@k0 here's one: a close relative of mine wanted to join the team- white boy who's setting sales records with his company; on track to be the youngest manager on corporate history. had to twist up the entry in the system to get him an interview. 5 questions, and failed. mind you, 2 of the HR interviewers told me he's all that and a bag of chips. who did they hire? a female who has a 4 year work history of part time work. so introverted, her mother has to go with her to civic events and introduce her to people. mom hands out her business cards for her! she got an $80 million GoodKnight...

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Post ID: @s8+1kdnt31yk

@OP I did the same. Could not agree more. Sometimes the grass really is greener on the other side.

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Post ID: @qb+1kdnt31yk

@g2 please do tell

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Post ID: @k0+1kdnt31yk

@OP don’t blame DEI, it was probably just your terrible personality

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Post ID: @jq+1kdnt31yk

@e4 I'm not brave enough to identify myself on this page. And if someone posts a contact email, I'll have to assume it's someone in EJ fishing for another target to sue. But I've got a story to tell...

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Post ID: @g2+1kdnt31yk

@e4 I have already contacted the government regarding this.

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Post ID: @ej+1kdnt31yk

@as I took my assets to another firm and am getting the “HNW” client treatment at no ridiculous fee structure that EDJ charges. I feel like I have the power of the new firm behind me to continue to help me “find my rich.”

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Post ID: @eh+1kdnt31yk

@ef not if it goes how the coin toss went that pennywise the clown did

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Post ID: @eg+1kdnt31yk

@ar don’t worry. Big 12 will be our savior.

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Post ID: @ef+1kdnt31yk

If you believe you have been discriminated against because you are a white heteros-xual male, the government wants to hear from you.

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Post ID: @e4+1kdnt31yk

Companies can prioritize DEI or merit, but not both. In the long term, DEI firms have no chance against merit based firms.

As for the DEI extra bonus for GK and RTP, EJ got sued over that policy and quietly took it away this year.

Unfortunately, home office still has DEI leader goals.

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Post ID: @dy+1kdnt31yk

But EJ never laid anyone off even during the worst of the 2000s and Covid. Many bragged about it till this summer as they got the shaft. Live and learn and finance will become the lifeblôod of financial AI takes over many left over roles

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Post ID: @bh+1kdnt31yk

Senior leaders and elt make money that even the highest performing advisors can't imagine, but you wanna come after the regular people trying to earn an honest living just like you?

Doesn't make much sense to me.

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Post ID: @b3+1kdnt31yk

I'm glad you landed at a good firm and are doing well.

Historically, EJ's biggest sin has been charging some of the highest fees, while having the d-mbest and most incompetent FAs in the industry. A bunch of hucksters pushing high cost investments and borderline predatory fees on elderly, unsophisticated investors that don't know any better. It's why EJ's gambit to move into the HNW space is failing to launch. Sophisticated investors know better.

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Post ID: @as+1kdnt31yk

@ag Yes, other firms are light years ahead of EJ. Fidelity, Vanguard, Morgan Stanley, UBS, JP Morgan, LPL, Raymond James, etc. Edward Jones will be completely obsolete in about 5 years if they don't implement some massive changes. I have an FA friend who left last month, and she told me they have increased asset gathering requirements for all of the FAs. That is going to speed up attrition, especially for those who have established books of business. Edward Jones fails to realize the clients are loyal to the FA, not the firm (not any firm).

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Post ID: @ar+1kdnt31yk

@OP Ive been at jones for over 15 yrs at home office. I've been hba for of those years and now that they want me to spend 2hrs a day commuting, Im done. It's not worth it at this point. Ive already had to train my indian replacements and have watched leadership lie and backtrack on so much it is sad. I almost dont want to be in this industry anymore but I do read from other folks like you that it isn't all bad out there with our competitors. Edj does a good job with brainwashing us and treating like a beaten wife. I think the gig is up though and the "culture" is 100% toast now. It's just crazy how quickly things went downhill after 2022

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