I have never met more people in my life who are ashamed to work at a company.
Everyone I know is looking for another job
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@2qe. Not much difference between a horse and a Jacka$$ genetically. We all make mistakes! HEE HAW!
@2px yep, I just recently learned this. Do only what your manager tells you and nothing more. Doing more gets you seen as a threat and puts a target on your back. It sure as he-l won't get you a promotion unless you are part of F&F.
@2px I took a second remote job over Covid and had to quit for this? I picked the wrong horse..
Just hit 30 years. See ya MFers!
@at My experience as well. Way too many People Leaders....nothing can get done properly.
When I joined the company I had very high ambition and desire to excel and offer value. However, I quickly learned your 'job' is strictly order-taking. That's it. Especially with the obsession of SMART objectives the last couple of years. You don't think independently, or critically, or offer other valid ideas, or challenge the status quo. That is when I lost all respect and only do the bare minimum until I find another job (actively looking). I've worked for several companies and consulted over the years - Ford is the absolute worst.
@x5 At least I got out on a Friday night, maybe had a few, and still had time to fu-k your mother. Meanwhile you’re stuck rage refreshing thelayoff like it’s Tinder. Who’s really the drunk loser here?
@x2 Keep convincing yourself rage-shitposting counts as “spine.” The rest of us will clock the clowns either way.
Proud to work here? Don’t make me laugh. This place is a godda-n circus run by di-kheads blazers who couldn’t lead a pi-s-up in a brewery. Morale’s in the toilet because every meeting is the same bullsh-t parade of buzzwords and cover-your-a-s nonsense. And here you are moaning like some sorry-a-s wa-ker who just realized Santa isn’t real. Nobody gives a sh-t if you’re ‘ashamed’ you’re still walking in, still cashing the check, still playing corporate bi--h. Either take the money and shut your yap, or grow some ba--s and walk. But spare us the crybaby cr-p.
@m8 Are we talking about the same HR here?
@je happened to me at sharon vile many years back. Some limp di-k supervisor told me he couldn’t do his job because he didn’t feel well, I chewed him out so good that he stroked out right there, I can still hear the HR cu-t screaming at me for giving a sh-t
@jb They told me to tone it down, that’s not acceptable, I think these snowflakes just don’t know what it’s like to work at the plant. I’m tired of being told “you’re abusive”, “you need to be nice”, “stop screaming”, “it’s not appropriate to throw things at your employees”…
Respect here is a one way street here! Don't defend yourself either.
@jb Your patience gets exploited while they bleed you dry, and when you question that, they we-ponize the very thing you gave them. They punish you for waiting too long, and punish you again for refusing to wait forever.
There’s no honesty in that cycle, it’s designed to keep you quiet either way. I kept delivering, kept waiting, kept trusting the system. And then, when I finally asked them about it, they rewrote the story: suddenly I wasn’t patient, I was “demanding".
Instead of fixing the issues, management and HR use your patience to delay, breadcrumb, and string you along, knowing you'll wait quietly while they benefit from your work.
I waited weeks, then months, then well over a year, in good faith. Every time I followed up, they told me to be patient and making promises they did not intend on upholding.
False promises are worse than a straight no, because they keep you stuck forever-- hoping things will change when the plan was always to stall you out and take you for all you had and then we-ponize your questions against you. All while others around you advanced.
They exploit your willingness to wait, then later accuse you of being impatient when you follow up in due-time. By never outright rejecting your requests, they keep you trapped in limbo to break you. Their failure to follow through becomes your “behavioral issue".
@gd HR doesn’t discipline the managers who create the hostile environment, they help cultivate it and coach the employee for their “attitude” instead. Feedback comes out of nowhere, only after you advocate for yourself. If you’re over-performing, they move the goalposts and talk about “soft skills. Promotions delayed, opportunities blocked, career trajectory intentionally stalled.
In short: they discipline the employee for refusing to wait forever, and reward the manager for stringing you along.
@g8 I feel for you, it’s like you can’t yell at people anymore. Sorry but some people just don’t get it, this company has more snowflakes than a ski hill. What ever happened to the good old days when you could just take out your aggression on a gsr, now I have to go yell at the UAW instead.
Proud? Sure. Proud I survived another week of “collaboration coaching” and gaslit feedback
Management has known for years that people don’t fight back if they’re burned out, divided, and scared about their jobs. Many of my fellow colleagues here have the LinkedIn Premium membership for a reason.
Most of us came in wanting to build cool things and make a difference, but it’s hard to feel anything but burnout when Ford punishes initiative and protects bad leadership. It's a total bait-and-switch from what you see on the outside.
Ford stock over $15, nah I have no confidence in that, I highly doubt it will ever reach 1999 peak $30 and 2022 peak $20 for the foreseeable future. Recalls and playing ev catch-up is costing too much. Really wish it did but I will soon dump my shares after vest and buy something that is a better investment.
You forgot the decimal between the 9 and the 5. 9.50 - there...fixed it for ya.
@f8 global network ripple effect
@f7 Oh no worries, dump away! Honestly, this kind of behavior is normalized at this point. Ford, our lovely institutions, and our local agencies prepped me well!
You're right though. Jokes aside, I was just a quirky little human going in, and I came out an even quirkier one… just with CPTSD, some shiny reputational damage (undeserved), and the unique experience of being gaslit by a whole corporate ecosystem that is in bed with our government. Fun times. I love ambiguous loss man. All those kids that looked up to me I mentored watching me go through this really know what to do in life! Speak up? WRONG. STFU? Pure michigan!!!
Life is great, though. Especially when “speaking up” gets rebranded as “being difficult” and 50 people calling you crazy covertly (not just here) and it just becomes part of the culture. Love that for us and others who are watching that will now stay silent... the ones that "got the message". My family? Kids younger than me that looked to me as an inspiration for my accolades before I joined Ford under undergrad? They are quirky too! Watching me go through this? Seeing what happens? They will be even MORE quirky now! Wow!!!!
No hate my friend but before you joined Ford you were a person with quirks and issues and you left forward as a person with quirks and issues.
If you try to make a bigger deal out of just being human being who is a weirdo sometimes you're going to make life more difficult.
Honestly I'm not trying to dump on you
@at I work in ET and it's the same thing there.
@b6 Such arrogance “where they crawl I jump”. Others may have figured it out long before you did. Get a life, relax and have some fun.
The PIP’d and fired slackers on here?
u mad bro? Ford stock hitting $300 a share in 2035 taste the flavour Lololol!
@dc Just love when people start off with OPINION flags like "You're the type..." and we have never even met. Now, what's that saying I posted about OPINIONS? See. It is true after all. Thanks for the verification! T or F? 1 or 0. Is or is not. Yes or no.
@d9 thank you. Just listened. That Q&A section was... yikes.
@db You're the type to read a document by someone with impression management that is undeserved and believe the 'facts'. As long as it's looking like line items in an organized form. Holistic approach be damned, KPOV/KPIV be damned. My life out of undergrad... be damned!
@da 1,0. Off, On. True, False. Is, IS not. That is all EXISTS. That is all that I EVER evaluate. People need to "Put up or shut up". And they better do it with data. Just my opinion!
@c6 There is irrational optimism and rational optimism. There is irrational pessimism and rational pessimism. Being a realist is too definitive based on 'hard data'. Inputs matter. Bias matters. Context matters. Otherwise you end up closer to wrong than you are right on the continuum. Whoever says data = data... is a pure mo--n that does more damage than they think. Data could be manipulated. This is why you have people come on here and share how evil people were here.
@d8 Building Industrial Excellence, Aug. 18th. KG and his crew. Internal only.
@d5 curious what meeting this was. Would be interested to hear the recording if someone could share the meeting/ event name
I spoke up against my manager and I was fired. I don’t care. I’m happy to be away from ford. No more meetings with everyone’s camera turned off and people just biding their time. No more performative rituals to make incompetent people feel important.
There is no integrity in the work that was being done it was all CYA from the person above you. Ford will not make anything great again, they don’t have the heart and soul anymore.
Preface: I know they dont care. I get it...but....
Dont they see that every town hall/all hands where they spew the same bullsh-t, the natives are getting restless? Yesterdays giant pile of steaming excr-ment was a prime example. The facilities guy in one breath, 'go to your CoG...' - 'find a desk where you can' - 'sit with those you need to collab with' - '~80% of any given team will find a seat, others will have find a "hard top" (whatever the fu-k that means) and work there'....
So basically the message is what? What I heard was, theres not enough room for 100% fill and if you come in after 8 or 9, you're fu---d.
Then, KG bi--hing about the tone of the questions, testing them on their complete bullsh-t and calling them out, was priceless. "no finger pointing"... hahahaha, what a fu--ing a--hole. But wait, didnt Jimmy tell us to argue and challenge? Losers. Dont challenge them on their double talk and a-s talking, no sir. Fu--ing hypocrites.
Just seems to me, every time they talk, the foot goes further in and the employees lose any faith we had left. Now everyone is getting angry. Jokes are made about Ford fight club but I wouldnt be surprised if there are incidents following Sept. 1. Its going to get ugly(er).
Once I realized, a long time ago, that I was just a number and nobody cared, I began to focus on what was important to me. Low and behold, it was not someone elses skewed and biased vision, it was myself. As well, when I was a gung ho spirited youngster with ideas and input, I was often shut down ($ reasons) and my input was put off yet stolen, I learned to keep my mouth shut...and expectations low or non existent. Morale? There is not such a thing at this company and those that think they wont soon be broken are naive.
"that'll make you work just hard enough not to get fired" is the mantra here. Sad really. Plus, there is no guarantee that busting your a-s will keep you employed. Thats one of the reasons morale is sh-t. The "we dont care" moment KG had about rto was the final nail I believe. Course plotted for iceberg.
@ap Optimists and pessimists CHOOSE what they are. I am a REALIST! An Optimist, a Pessimist and a Realist. An optimist will say the glass is half full. The pessimist will say the glass is half empty. The realist will say "Insufficient Data". Huh? If the glass was empty, and something was added to half of the glass's capacity, it is half full. If the glass were full and half of the content was removed, it is half empty. It is all about balance and REALITY. Too many people just don't get this. Avoid ALL "points of view (POV). Decisions need to be based on ACCURATE DATA and FACTS, NOT OPINIONS! Opinions are like a posterior orifice. Everyone has one, and it usually STINKS!
@a7 No gray matter amongst managers either.
@aq and now ford shows its true self as a STFU (Shut The F*** Up) type indicator management / Damagement group. So sad.