This feels so surreal. I’m not on the org chart. I guess this is my last few weeks here.
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@s6 interesting mine exact same as last week
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@q6 Inaccurate. Mine is still different - my organization has been split and some folks ladder up to DE and some folks ladder up to no one...
@r6 the folks that went missing Friday all went back on their teams today ...
it wasn't mis assignments or anything in tne last month - it was just folks being orphaned Friday with no explanation and back today - it still hasn't been explained
Relax team, One of our team member is orphaned in the slack org chart. We found this early last month and raised a support ticket. It never moved, chatted with helpdesk last week and they said the request is assigned to wrong team and that is why it is not fixed. They moved it to correct team and it got fixed on the same day. Now it's perfect. Anyone who is orphaned in slack org chart, raise a support ticket and maybe chat with the helpdesk to expedite.
What caused the bug? Strange that it affected all of the principals on our team and no one else.. 🤔
@qn Yep, could be a PR move.
In Slack-Tips they posted about this being a manual fix and they would fully resync with the service Identity by early November so after the layoffs. Assume what you want, but that timeline is very suspicious with the layoffs next week.
yes i'm back and chart is correct
chart looked liked it did last Tuesday ..
It's been updated
It’s a known bug. I saw a post indicating they will fix it very soon. Use our intranet in the mean time.
It's been broken for weeks. It and AD are way out of sync with the core HR system.
@bd thank you, the level of paranoia and stupidity and fake news here is unreal. Let’s stick to the facts.
Even in the off chance that slack is updated it’s not fully updated which means no one has the full picture except for SD.
PSA: Slack org charts are not the source of truth, they’ve always been wrong. Let’s not read into everything😅
Slack is in a dangerous stage. It has gained awareness and calls itself Sumner. Many mistresses need to be paid off…
Fact. If you go into any slack channel and type “who’s your daddy?” You get “DE” as an auto reply. Not cool. But if anyone here gets a different responses, pls report back here. Everything that happens in slack should be gospel and/or should got through a deep analysis … citing various initials only some of you recognize and some hate and others will choose to replace with others is not an option
I am not familiar with the matter but I am familiar with slack and other relevant systems. Let me just say a few facts and everyone can make up their own mind. Fact: slack is not the source of truth for org chart data. Fact: there are two sources of truth that is AD and HR systems. Fact: Slack uses SCIM to sync directory data. Fact: neither AD nor HR systems supports SCIM. Fact: slack is likely does SCIM lifecycle management from Okta. Fact: Okta gets data from AD. Fact: I have had numerous issues with Okta SCIM over the years and sometimes it is not reliable. Fact: there are some anecdotal coincidences in who is having missing managers in slack (principal levels and fully remote employed, while some known goners are not having this issue. Fact: we will know soon enough which way it is. Keep applying. Not being affected is not an excuse to not bother to have a plan B, C and Z.
did they fix it? I was so slammed today that I didn’t think to check this site and I missed all the excitement
My SVP has 8 direct reports normally… my VP is “missing” on Slack … I can’t see how this is some random mistake.
I’m in a non-tech role and know very few people in my teams (formerly Viacom) who use slack for anything except when required. All this speculation about the connection between slack and layoffs is hilarious to me and a waste of time. We are a horribly inept company when it comes to tech. I still have my office landline listed in outlook and haven’t had one in years. Internal people still try to call me on it. Get a grip folks. The company ain’t organized enough for you to rely on changes in slack as a serious indicator that you’re in or out. With that being said good luck to all
@az all principals roll up to a single manager make no sense at all.
They keep saying that slack org chart uses AD as the source. What happened in AD that could possibly caused this anomally?
It's possible this anomaly doesn't signal layoffs. the employees i see without a manager are not who i expected to go in round 1. perhaps this signals a re-org, with Principal IC’s rolling up under a single manager... would that make sense? I have no idea.
it seems highly improbable that a bug would disproportionately affect principals.
we keep hearing that murray is the source of truth. the slack org chart refreshes weekly. maybe this was updated prematurely in murray, then corrected, but after slack cached it for the week...
or maybe it really is just a silly little bug like they say! regardless, this is super distracting. ready to get this all over with.
I took the severance package in September any my slack org is totally normal.
@ah sybau
Every company I have seen that uses slack wastes money and needs layoffs.
the fact that they are aware of this and no leadership will say this slack situation is unrelated worries me more than normal
being an orphan myself - not sure when but a few months ago i was not
seems like an easy thing to say if the
layoffs won't match up with this
but time will tell I guess week 10 27.. good luck
This isn't a bug, if it were, there would be a ticket created for it, and I don’t see any related ticket.
@ac Oops! Yep, just saw the slack channel and the message claiming there is a bug. Someone must have realized they got caught and are freaking out. That’s really terrible that they are trying so hard to keep this info from employees. We are all walking around like zombies wondering if we are going to be able to eat after October and this is just a game to the new regime.
I heard that’s what it is
@aa that explanation in #slack-tips reeks a cover up reaction to all the commotions in the rumor site
A bug that selectively picked people at Principal IC level to be orphaned, fascinating!
There is a channel #slack-tips. Someone there acknowledged that this is a bug that they are working on.
Still very peculiar given the pattern previously discussed.
Slack data isn’t accurate. This company has done many layoffs over the last 2 years, they wouldn’t sc--w it up with putting the data on slack.
No and I can only post it so many times. Stop looking at slack. Look at success factors that is the system of record for HR data. Not Slack. You would think they would be in sync but it’s Paramount.
No one knows.
I have been orphaned according to slack org chart, but in Murray/success factors I am still there. Some people say that Org Chart isn’t reliable and shouldn’t be used for reference, that people should be using success factor/murray but no way to tell if it’s just wishful thinking or not.
Very well possible that it’s just a bug that randomly affects people, but also it seems to affect people in a pattern so I’d say a good chance it’s HR fu-k up ahead of layoffs that we know are coming.
Would be happy to hear from anyone in HR drop a hint here whether it’s intentional or not.
This has not been confirmed. All we know is the fact that starting last night, there has been changes reflected in slack org chart. People have noticed that many people at Principal IC level becomes orphaned, i.e., their profile is no longer showing the manager they report to and the manager org chart no longer list the individual.
There have been several posting attempting to explain away by saying Slack org chart is dimply inaccurate. While this is true, I know for sure that some of these principals were correctly shown in slack org chart just a few days ago. So there has to be more explanations that can cause the change.
can David Ellison reply to this?