Thread regarding Edward Jones layoffs

An Education on Partnerships: By Anonymous

Partnerships are business entities owned by the employees themselves. This is different from publicly traded companies that are owned by stockholders, some of which may have a controlling interest. See: Walmart and the Walton family. (RIP Sam, friend of Ted)

Each partnership must have a Partnership Agreement. The Edward Jones agreement has been amended multiple times (by their own omission, see Summary Plan Description of the Involuntary Separation Program).

The calculation of, and distribution of profits are each ridiculously skewed to favor the General Partners. While Limited Partners are kept satiated with a 18%-24% return on capital, General Partners are earning 45%-65% per annum returns, repaying their partnership loans and generating generational wealth at a rate that most of us cannot imagine.

I’m a big, big fan of capitalism, don’t get me wrong, but something about this seems shady and the antithesis of ethical business.

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@a7 Your compensation will NOT go up. You can bet on that.

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Post ID: @d7+1k358h85a

Jones pays low compared to the industry if you're not a GP. The bonuses are laughable by most standards. The only thing people care about was job security. Without that if they don't do better compensation wise any associate with any talent will be gone in 2 years anyway. The GP's aren't going to shorten their pockets to put more money in the associate's so keep dreaming if you think this will change.

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Post ID: @c3+1k358h85a

@a7 they will continue to pay us pennies on the dollar because the job market su-ks and they know we have nowhere to go.

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Post ID: @bz+1k358h85a

@bj 100% agree. I think what people are afraid of is that we keep bringing in parasites from the outside that probably want that payday.

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Post ID: @bv+1k358h85a

@bh while all what you said is true. I think by generational wealth, OP meant the dollar value of their general partnership, not that it can be passed on to hiers. I've seen some worth $25 to $45million. That can be defined as generational wealth. I saw a former top GP get a $30million cash payout to their EJ account after retiring a few years ago. Disclaimer: I wasn't snooping around. The account kept up as part of work.

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Post ID: @bq+1k358h85a

@OP Not sure why you think this is shady. Edward Jones is one of the last remaining partnerships. All the major financial firms used to be partnerships, but eventually the partners wanted an even bigger payday and the company went public. Personally, I’d rather work for and be in a partnership that isn’t subject to the short term whims of the public market.

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Post ID: @bj+1k358h85a

The Edward Jones partnership does not necessarily create generational wealth. Partnership can not be transferred or left in a trust or estate. When a partner dies, the firm buys the partnership back at book value. Furthermore, General Partners have to retire at 65 and they receive a different type of partnership (Subordinated Limited Partnership) when they retire. Higher payout than LP, but no personal obligation for firm debts at that point.

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Post ID: @bh+1k358h85a

@a7 we have always been underpaid historically compared to peers. The only reason employee satisfaction was kept high was because of job security compared with peers.

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Post ID: @bb+1k358h85a

@a7 Would be true if not such a bad job market out there.

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Post ID: @b5+1k358h85a

I don’t fault our executives for making great money. I’m glad to work in a place where those types of opportunities exist. I do fault them for the mismanagement that led us to this point. The good news is that everyone’s comp is going to go up. It has to. No one in their right mind would work at a shrinking firm with poor leadership and toxic corporate culture unless they’re paying well above market rate.

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