If they follow up the layoffs with a 5-day RTO I think they'll have a riot on their hands. There's only so much people can take, and I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the straw that breaks the camel's back and we see massive quitting, which is probably the goal, along with massive walkouts. If cops can have the blue flu, we can have something similar as well.
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If I survive RIF and they go 5 days I’d probably quit and wish I got severance instead…
@ag the problem is that most of these rolls were never hired as remote, it was a perk evolved from COVID. The "owner" now say it doesn't work. It's not our place to cry fowl because they want everyone in the office. It's a huge tax write-off for them. So if I'm told I have to return to office, I have two options. Either I accept it or I find another job that allows me to work remone. Im not understanding why people struggle with the concept and then hurl insults refering to people as old. It's nothing to do with age, it has to do with each person's circumstances. Maybe that is why you struggle with your job; an inability for analyzing and processing your surroundings.
@ac nowhere near retirement age. I just know that if it were my company, I can call the shots. It's not my company so therefore I can either return to the office or leave. I do not get to override those running the company. Hence if I we're to be asked to go to the local office and work, I'd do so. I have mouths to feed and keep a roof over my head so I am thinking of them first vs crying about having to return to the office.
@a7 Let me guess...you're near retirement and have no life outside of work or you want to get away from the SAHM and kids, so you're advocating for RTO. It will be funny if you, too, are on the chopping block. Many people live nowhere near their teams, so they end up going into an office just to take calls all day on WebEx. Make it make sense, smh.
You lazy f***
@a2 Dan the Hatchet Man
@a1 if that were true I would have been gone like 4 layoffs ago, since then I've been on Island time, no OT, work apps/emails pause immediately at closing time+15 mins cause I'm nice.
Google, FB, X and many others used RTO as a tool to indirectly motivate workers to resign. This is part of the reduction strategy. I’m thinking starting in Jan we’ll move to 4 days then 5 days by summer. That said, before covy, folks on my team were allowed 1 wfh day every week as long as we met our SLAs. Hopefully they’ll implement that model again.
@ag did you just admit that you are using WFH as reason to take care of children at home LOL.
@a7 dang you're a well programmed robot.
It's about tech progression, we are the biggest telecommunications company and we're like remote work is for babies. How can you promote your network that you won't even use yet you want to create tech for doctors to do remote surgery over 5G?
The world even before covid was slowly moving to remote work, covid pushed us forward like 5-7 years. Being able to work from home when say daycare is closed or school has half a day has been one of the biggest benefits to me and I don't even understand how people did it in the past without losing their jobs from having to take off so much especially when you don't have family around to help.
I'm ok with RTO for 2-3 days, I agree that a little more gets done but not in the sense of performance but you're now inclined to get that face to face questions you're been meaning to ask but after 2/3 days I don't need to talk to anyone else and can be left alone to hammer out what responsibilities.
You old people always revert back to the same argument, it puts a roof on my head well so does remote jobs....
It's how it was in the past, yeah we also had child labor and it worked well...
These are the new times where working should be now flexible if it's possible. Shoot I got registered at a hospital by a remote worker being driven around by a robot with a screen and devices to sign your name and swipe for payment.
Get with the times
What we need is AI regulations that prevent industries from dumping an entire workforce for AI. But it'll never happen since most of you voted for Trump thinking it would help the country lol.
The AI industries are paying Trump to leave it alone
Your going to have to take your Jamie's and slippers of and put big boy buckle pants and tie shoes if you want to riot. Hard to be taken serious in Cookie Monster pajamas
Everyone acts like the people who dont want to RTO are refusing to do it. Most of them are doing it, they are just explaining why they do not like it. Everyone jumps at them and says "just go back to the office" They ate probably doing that, but that doesn't mean they like it. WFH is great if you work better in a quiet setting without distraction. There is nothing wrong with people saying they prefer it.
@OP lol you are threatening of quitting and getting no severance package than going back 5 days in the office. Boy I wish your name is on 11/20 list.
@a7 Let me guess...you're near retirement and have no life outside of work, so you're advocating for RTO. It will be funny if you, too, are on the chopping block. Many live nowhere near their teams, so they end up going into an office just to take calls all day on WebEx. Make it make sense, smh.
@a4 then su-k it up and get your lazy entitled a-s back to the office.
I'm a contracted network engineer likely on the chopping block come Thursday, so I can say this in a relatively unbiased way. Productivity and daily involvement are much higher on the team I'm on when we work in the office. Initiative to handle issues and customer engagement is much lower when working remote. In a perfect world where everyone is competent, involved, and engaged, fully remote obviously makes sense. But man... some teams needed to definitely come back to the office for more oversight/accountability.
Do the needful. Work from 9-5 M-F as prescribed. Has been done over a century with childrens and commutation. Many peoples are out of work and would love to have your job in office. Simply as thus
@a6 that's exactly what the most talented and desirable staff does when RTO is implemented.
The smart (ACTUALLY nimble, scrappy, etc) businesses that value talent over arbitrary and outdated geographic work locations pick up top talent, and the archaic dinosaur with the hotshot new toughguy punch-drunk CEO cuts cost, gets a stock price boost and executive Payday, and experiences brain drain as a result.
The only staff left are the losers and geezers who couldn't get hired at another company. Incredible vision. Great plan.
Going to an office is not a deal breaker for me and many. Before the pandemic, we were doing just that. I will never understand the tantrums of returning to the office. Full time remote here and if told to go to the local office, I'd do just that because it keeps a roof over my head and keeps food on the table. Never seen such entitled behavior. You want to stay home? Then quit and open your own business. In the meantime, folks like me will do what we have to do to maintain our roofs.
@OP do you hear yourself? You're the type of entitled narcissist the company needs to get rid of. You're getting paid to do a job and not one that revolves around your availability and schedule. If you're so valuable leave and work at a company that supports wfh.
YOU are part of the problem
I would agree if the job market was good. Its not.
Employees reacted SO BADLY to 3 days a week. Can you imagine how they’ll react to 5?
I’m wondering if these RTO rumors have merit??
#Disaster_Dan
There won't be a "riot" there will be attrition without severance which is exactly what they want. Don't be so naive.