My group is small and kind of isolated from the rest of the company. And nobody here wants to leave. The pay is good, we don't work crazy hours, and leadership keeps telling us we're safe. Whether that's true or not is not certain, but it's enough to make people want to stay.
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Just ask the folks in Palo Alto - I am sure they felt safe in their cohesive and high functioning team - and then the layoffs came for them. SAP can run on the remaining maintenance revenue and RISE subscriptions for another 8-10 years before they are out of money - if they get rid of at least half the employees. We are no longer in a growth business; we are in a cost-cutting/low overhead business now - unless something fundamental changes.
@ef Please, TB, just stop it.
@ef Just stop it with the na-i b0ll0cks. If you want that kind of think f*ck off to some small little world and let those of us that don't have hate in our hearts to just get on with creating a better world.
@a5 well, the whole company is still like that. But we hired immigrants who changed the company culture and so the company is not like that anymore. There is too much Muslim migration and now Indians are the largest growing people at SAP. This is costing Europeans their jobs every time there are layoffs. We need remigration and this needs to start soon. Because for every European role at SAP, there is a cheaper Indian to do it at half the salary. I wish the US went to war with India instead of Iran.
@a3 Same, the teams I was working with were all working on core infra (that we have since dropped, then realised was critical and rebuilt 2 years later) or on AI projects for a long time. Seamed like we were all critical to the business but almost everyone was cut because some bean counter somewhere wanted an office shut and moved to cheap locations. We were told we would get priority for any other local roles, but there where very few roles and the ones that did exist everyone was told they were too experienced and denied an interview. Do not ever consider yourself safe unless you are in France or Germany where they can't just get rid of you at a whim. Were run by the bean counter and spreadsheet men who have zero loyalty to the staff or clients and only care about the shareholders and their own stock portfolios.
I'm in a similar group. I can only hope it stays like that.
We have our own little universe, we are a great team, no HPOM coming up for us - perfection.
Anybody in such a situation can only be grateful. In a sense this is a shame, because when I joined SAP, the whole company was like that.
@OP I was part of a group like yours. we delivered a lot, always on schedule/on budget. I refused an internal opportunity (moving to a different board area) because my (stupid) boss told me our team was safe. with P24 we were all laid off and our boss took the voluntary attractive german package.
sorry to tell this, but don't be unprepared to bad events.