Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

RTO is unfair to people hired during COVID as 100% remote

I'd say they depends on how they were hired. If they were hired during covid as 100% remote, the salary they negotiated took into account the lack of a commute. Dell has changed that deal now. You don't think those folks have a right to feel a little pi---d? I negotiate/expect 20% higher salary to be in the office.

If they were hired onsite, and went remote during covid, they have nothing really to complain about, but Dell hired a ton of people full time remote during covid and has spent the last 2 years trying to sc--w them into quitting. That's a problem, and even the "get back in the office" types should be able to recognize that.

This, @av+1kpdrarz1.


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Post ID: @OP+1kperefwz

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@h2 It quite literally is not up to your manager/director or even VP.

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Post ID: @10s+1kperefwz

Dear Michael Dell, please accelerate the AI implementation in this company so we can finally replace these workers who are still complaining about RTO.

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Post ID: @w5+1kperefwz

OMG you ungrateful f*ckers. Be thankful you still have a job and a paycheck!

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Post ID: @w4+1kperefwz

Tell me you're Gen-Z without telling me you're Gen-Z.

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Post ID: @r9+1kperefwz

Please quit your whining. Be grateful for what you do have and don’t have you total slacker.

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Post ID: @q6+1kperefwz

RTO is unfair to ALL of us. Don’t throw your coworkers under the bus, no matter where they live. The only “us vs. them” position you should be taking is ALL of us against the executives making these decisions.

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Post ID: @kb+1kperefwz

@h2 Sorry, RTO is not about productivity my friend. It is purely about getting rid of those who aren't manager asss dwellers.

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Post ID: @hr+1kperefwz

@h2 Yes and no. At some point someone above your manager will look at badge-in numbers for your team. If they don't like what they see then they will demand an explanation from your manager. If that explanation is not good enough, then your manager is given a certain amount of days to bring the team's numbers up. It's kind of like a PIP but doesn't necessarily end in termination your manager if the goal is not met, especially if your manager offers up one of their directs as a sacrificial lamb.

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Post ID: @hf+1kperefwz

It’s not fair.
How could this happen

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Post ID: @h8+1kperefwz

RTO is your managers prerogative my friend.
No one will be let go for being remote.
It comes down to your productivity.

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Post ID: @h2+1kperefwz

Quit? I did … Dell, MD, and JC — pure greed. Buying an Apple soon, too — glad to see my new employer stopped buying Dell and switched to Lenovo.

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Post ID: @fc+1kperefwz

I have to agree on some of this to be honest...

I was hired on March of 2020 and was expected to work a hybrid shift - 3 days in office, 2 at home - and a week later was full remote due to covid. I was fine with that, as I'm sure most people were! But I was never hired as a "remote" employee, either.

Several of my colleagues were hired in 2022 as "remote" and now they are quite literally in a dead-end job as they are ineligible for promotions due to being remote and wouldn't surprise me if they get lesser raises and/or bonus's... They are in cities/states in which do not have Dell offices or, if there is one then it's hourS away.

Idk what they were told upon hire but I'm betting they were told being remote was fine and dell doesn't plan to do "in office" anymore. Heck, our orgs EXECS even told us that they saw no future plans of anyone going into office last Oc!ober A few months later though? BO-M! Had I known, I wouldn't have signed a new lease at my apartment which is 65 minutes away from the office and, would have moved to a closer location!

As for those hired on as full remote "during covid" I feel like Dell owes them 100% relocation if they want; or allows promotions. My manager was going into an office and they shut it down due to lack of employees, then 99% of Sr Managers were demoted to consultant and now he's literally stuck at this level forever.

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Post ID: @f0+1kperefwz

Yes, fairness is what this company is all about.

Don't quit if you been around for long enough. Get the severance, and then move on. If you want to both feel better and speed things up, stick it to them by telling failing to come in to the office. In the end you already know that either you have to or that will be the outcome, and more than likely with how things are going, it'll happen anyways.

As @a5+1kperefwz already so eloquently put it the only reason it was put in place was to get more people to quit. Everybody know that is has nothing to do with performance.

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Post ID: @er+1kperefwz

That’s actually my situation. I have been luckier and could keep the remote.
I completely agree with you

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Post ID: @ej+1kperefwz

seriously...we're still doing this????? Move on...it is what it is.

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Post ID: @cp+1kperefwz

Just like bellow. Don’t like it, quit. Find a WFH job at another company.

Hired pre Covid, hired post Covid, hired during Covid. No one cares.

I’m sure if you put it in TellDell so the world can see, they’ll reverse it and send you home.

Or the more likely scenario.

You and every other person is going to put WFH should return, just like last year and it will fall on deaf ears. again.

Get over it or move to a new company.

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Post ID: @b4+1kperefwz

For the 679th time, RTO has absolutely NOTHING to do with when anyone was hired, or whether they have to burn more gas to commute to the office each day.

It is solely, 100%, singularly in place to get more people to quit. That's it. That's all. BAIN numbskulls telling Dell execs to get closer to 75K employees.

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