Thread regarding SAP layoffs

@aw how can travel budget be “very limited” when most of N. America just met in person in Las Vegas for GTMKOM?

@bg No budget for the actual roles that need it. It all goes on Executive and Leadership pep rallies and bonding sessions, while the actual complexity of how to actually do the tasks at hand isn't supported for the people who have to do the actual work.

@am No. I was laid off in Q3 2025 as part of "the last wave" of P24, so no, the yearly nomenclature doesn't indicate any time specifically.

I can't say exactly how I know this because it will reveal my identity. The Mongoose was terminated in late December because it got drunk at one of the Christmas parties and se-----y as--ulted Christian Kline when it mistook him for Ellen DeGeneres. Christian almost didn't go to Davos because he felt that Klaus would see him as tainted. Reptilians consider birds to be unclean.

There is too much rumors, guessing, deducting.
Speaking from facts. Travel budgets increase but of course not to everyone. Lot of hiring last year. no layoffs in plan, only cut off external.

Travel budget is far from limited. The past 9 months has seen unnecessary travel sky rocket.

Project Mongoose? Is this where DA the mongoose harasses and then eats CK the snake?

They want to make the work culture so toxic and unbearable that employees will leave without VERP. I think it's already working.

@aw we see another strong reason today.....

@aw layoff will impact their operating profit, so what happened is upset employees will find their way out. If not enough, it will only get worse, and maybe at one point layoff.

Not sure why people think that the topic "layoffs in 2026" is a rumor.

1. Christian Klein has publicly said multiple times that there will be layoffs.
2. Dominik Asam has publicly said multiple times that there will be layoffs.
3. Other executive board members have publicly said there will be layoffs.
4. Gina and her team created easy pathways for layoffs such as new performance management.
5. Müller (good riddance) and Alam created HPOM which is also an easy pathway to lay off product owners.
6. SAP salary and benefits budget is drastically cut to reduce costs as the executives see employees as a big cost.
7. External hiring is almost non-existent.
8. Travel budget is very limited and there is additional bureaucracy to reduce employee travel.
9. Christian Klein and Domonik Asam said that in 2026, the growth rate of current cloud backlog and the level of software support revenue will reduce.
10. AI is not there yet to bring in additional revenue but it is taking away development capacity from other revenue increasing features. It might also just be a bubble.
11. The stock price is crashing hard and SAP has had layoffs every time they wanted to bring the stock price up.
12. Operating cash flow is not that good at the moment due to several acquisitions.
13. The board and executives have run out of ideas to improve long term growth at SAP.
14. The US dollar is crashing hard and that's a big market for SAP.
15. Global uncertainty means that shareholders invest less in SAP and also customers don't want longer contracts or pay more money.
16. Most employees will get less than 1,8% increment and little to no stock. This won't even cover the increase in public health insurance payments and basic inflation anymore. We are in a situation where is a VERP plan is shared, many will accept.
17. There are (unsubstantiated) rumors that several areas are creating lists of who to lay off this time and how much money that will save SAP.
18. There is cost cutting in almost every area at SAP.

For me, these reasons are sufficient to believe that they will announce layoffs in February or March or early April.

@an Please provide proof. If you cannot do that, do not spread rumors. Rumors are not helpful in an already difficult situation.

There will be massive layoffs this year and pretending it won't happen doesn't help. Massive.

@ad please, what is the source of this info? Just don't want to raise anxiety because of some rumors.
Another point about this theme, isn't it called P25, which assume only conducted in 2025?

@a3 l am really disgusted when l see colleagues sharing Glassdoor employee of the year as badge of honour. Who in his/her right mind promote this company as a place to thrive? It's been to years of non-transarent decisions made only for the short term cash return for our ex. board. I understand biting your tongue for survival but a** kissing the board hoping not to be laid off is really pathetic. I mean they have continuously demonstrated that employees to them are only cost and resources to exploit until they serve a purpose.

@a9 The shareholders do not have confidence in the SAP leadership. That’s what’s cooking.

Expect layoffs asap. Dominik Asam and Christian Klein have renewed their talk about firing 10% of the workforce and replacing it with AI.

And the Betriebsrat is too busy wanting to get re-elected than to put up a good fight against this.

Stock is falling very sharply today !
Is something cooking ?

There will 100% be layoffs in 2026 but we just don't know when.

The share price dropped sharply recently and is on track to go below 150 this year. Last year, around this time, we were at more than 250. Shareholders do not have confidence in SAP leadership.

In any other company, this would mean a reshuffling of the strategic priorities, long-term vision, the executive board, OKRs, semester plans, etc. But at SAP, there is no accountability for the executive board so they will go with the easiest option - lay off employees to pi-p up the share price.

Project Mongoose wasn't just about layoffs. It was also created to reduce overall budget for employee salaries and benefits so this money can be moved to executive bonuses and additional programs for HRBP to transition into engineering manager roles. This was cut by a whooping 27% this year. The new benefits and Elevate SAP are a sham because they are giving less increments in salary which is bound by contract. It's deplorable but there's no one fighting them.

One of the reasons we don't see accountability is that more than 50% of SAP employees either support these id--tic management decisions or are coerced to. Anyone who gave a bad unfiltered is liable to get a bad performance result and be ousted.

The supervisory board needs to step up and hold the executives accountable. And employees and the Betriebsrat need to support them by going on a general strike if the executives refuse to do their work.