Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Would you recommend that youth pursue a career in tech any more?

It seems like all tech work places, not just Dell, are treating employees with complete disrespect. Need lower costs for a quarter, lay them off, and chances are they will be available to rehire when you need them again. The goal of career development has been replaced with the goal of just staying employed.


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I recommend coal mining

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Post ID: @mn+1k526s79a

The answer is absolutely yes! Just depends what area you want to go into...

My suggestion personally, is to get a bachelors in compsci (uselss degree on it's own) and then go apply for the MASTERS cybersecurity program through SANS. SANS is basically the Gold Standard of Cyber certifications. The program allows you to obtain 9 of their certifications, plus a ton of other things. Their certification courses are literally 10k a pop. Getting 9 of them is almost 100k worth of knowledge and very sought after certifixcations.

The program is like 40k for 2 years I believe. Very well worth it IMPO.

And no, I did not do that course as I don't have a bachelors. I do have 4 certs from them, though - thanks Dell!

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Post ID: @fc+1k526s79a

As someone who is in IT - Cyber - I'd say that yes it is. IMPO there are a few areas of IT that AI can't/won't fully take over and cyber is one of them. The other is Network admins. Most other jobs in IT - programmers/devs specifically - will be a job of the past sooner than later I think.

By cyber security, I mean defensive. Offensive/red team will likely be primiarly AI driven to a large extent sooner than later IMO.
On the defensive side, there is just too much that actual humans have to do in which AI can assist with but, can't like FULLY do. I don't feel like getting into detail here but trust me, it's far more risky to utilize AI on the blue side of cyber versus the red side. Although, using AI to do pentests is actually EXTREMELY risky and could easily result in massive lawsuits if the AI malfunctions or "thinks" something it shouldn't think... (breach in SOW, breaching networks that are sensitive such as PCI or PII files.

As for networking, AI is useful for intial configuration of switches/routers/etc and to some extent, patching however, most of it can't be done by AI.

Now, if you plan to go into the programming and/or Dev world of IT then... I'd say you better learn a TON about how to program AI; because programmers will absolutely be a thing of the past. Devs, not so much but their time will come as well.

Tech support roles? I mean sure, but you have very little job security considering everyone offshores tech support to India for 1/4th the cost of the company.

Fixing computers and things like that though? You'll always have a job. AI can't do that.

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Post ID: @fb+1k526s79a

Absolutely. Just not with a useless compsci degree lmfao. Go get respected IT certifications and you will be FAR more valuable, useful and sought after than a broad knowledge compsci graduate.

Any of the CISCO, Microsoft, SANS, and even some CompTIA certs will 100% get you hired over a compsci major with just a degree...

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Post ID: @et+1k526s79a

I went to medtech, love it!

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Post ID: @eh+1k526s79a

Of course, why not! I'd also tell them to not believe what their professors tell them about the industry. Most of them have never been outside academia.
Go into it with your eyes and ears open. It's ok to go in behind the pay curve, eventually it will pay off if you are good and be recognized and a flight risk or be picked off by a competitor. Be a mercenary!

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Post ID: @ef+1k526s79a

I would tell and teach the youth how to be an entrepreneur. Instead of getting yourself into enormous debt by going to college, which probably won’t serve most of them in the future, instead go work for a business for free for 12 months. Learn everything you can on what it takes to run a business. Teach yourself everything about AI at weekends.

Find a current problem for which there is no solution and create a business that aims to solve for it - with a big enough market that will create longevity.

This or you could suggest they get themselves a trade (plumber, carpenter etc)

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Post ID: @e6+1k526s79a

No. American companies have made it clear that they’d rather hire four Indians and roll the dice that one of them is actually competent.

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Post ID: @dq+1k526s79a

Companies are getting by with less people. It seems to be a trend that is being talked about on business networks. Education is important but always look at the career it will give you. Education has become more expensive. Tech is great but I don’t know if I would advise someone to get into it. If possible, ask people who are actually in it.

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Post ID: @d0+1k526s79a

I wouldn't recommend it. AI will take away many jobs, I also forsee the day when robots will design and build robots to do unquie tasks ( blue collar jobs ).

Not sure exactly what to recommend. I hope I'm wrong with my prediction.

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Post ID: @cs+1k526s79a

@a3 why vomiting face after AI?

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Post ID: @bc+1k526s79a

@a8 with most of the future generation becoming hairdressers and teachers China will trample us.

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Post ID: @bb+1k526s79a

Yes. Just not at Dell. It’s a terrible company.

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Post ID: @aq+1k526s79a

My daughter said she wanted to be a hairdresser or a teacher the other day. As most kids do. Actually sounds pretty good to me.

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Post ID: @a8+1k526s79a

Nope.

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Post ID: @a7+1k526s79a

Generally, a big NO! However, if you’re into robotics, AI (🤮), cybersecurity, forensics and medicine (such as neuroscience) then yes, go ahead!

It needs to be a niche and something that cannot be outsourced (both overseas or by a partner’).

If you dream about working for the BIG TECH (Google, Meta, Amazon etc definitely not DELL) then nooooo!! Those days are over.

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