Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Internal leaks from Amazon say that the folks resisting RTO are going to be let go next year. Expect other tech giants to follow suit.

Remote work is not the issue. Rewards are.

So many grade 8s and above have minimized their scope….complain about bandwidth….you get checked if you exceed 30 hours computer time…RTO just makes these workers less productive and flexible.

They use to reward going above and beyond…. Now they reward pushing back on bandwidth.

I mean there is AI they know who is lazy …. Don’t punish everyone!

Atleast you can date your mistress in office. Don't believe me , ask BK

Please allow me to put this debate to rest.

@ovf+1nfhxGzh It is JUST as easier if not EASIER for lazy b-ms to hide at work, in the office, than at home…. Think about it genius…. At home Teams and other software can track your every move… in the office you can spend endless hours socializing in the cafeteria with the pretext of being networking or meeting clients… endless coffee and banana breaks… endless bs meetings at work… perfect scenario for skaters to skate until they retire…

@OP+1nfhxGzh

There's only three kinds of people that hate remote work.

1. Managers that love sycophantic underlings greasing them up all day

2. Sycophantic employees that are lacking in skills, so they have to grease up the boss to get a promotion

2. Btthrt fab workers/others lacking in the necessary skills to gain a position outside of the fab. (not all/most fab workers are of this ilk)

If a person is not doing their job, they should be fired. I am paid for output and quality, not to be in a building. Managers, managing remote employees have the metrics to see EXACTLY what their folks are doing. If managers can't see what folks are doing by using these metrics, they are lazy!

I worked on a global team for nearly 10 years. I worked every day in the office driving 50 minutes to / from work but I was the only team member located at my site. This was before we had a work from home policy. My team members were all over the world. All of my meetings were online / conference calls etc... The ability to work from home simply gave me back 10 hours per week of driving time and much greater productivity. That situation was very common within the Intel Group I was part of (more than 1000 employees). I believe RTO is unnecessary and simply does not make any sense for large parts of Intel.

I was hired remote. Do you want me to go to an office?

There's only one type of person who loves RTO, the employee who needs to intimidate or manipulate other co-workers to do the work for them.

Dear OP you are full of sh-t.

I will just ask you some questions - assuming I am top 10% performing engineer in company - what will bring commuting to work everyday for 1h? Will I be able to waste time and go to endless coffees? Will I see with my own eyes how many people spend time being lazy in cafeteria? Will I be obligated to attend endless meetings without agenda and spend time there doing nothing? Should I adjust to people working in lab/fabs because they are sad? Sit in my cubicle and have calls with my teammates 5000 miles from me? With all of those people around? Will you provide me my own office or should I use phone boots, that will be always busy by someone?

As engineer beeing on site is ok for socializing, once a week or once bi-weekly. That’s it. You can squeeze all important meetings into this one day.

Only 2 kinds?

The truth about RTO any why people hate it is obvious.

It's easier to hide at home than it is in the office.

Just because you can't hack remote working doesn't mean others can't

@OP+1nfhxGzh Bruh, you “assume” a lot of things. You are assuming that people can be bucketed into two piles… you assume that people are lazy… you assume that people are slacking off… as an engineer (if you are one) you would present some solid facts and data on your claims to really back those claims up (i.e. employees are lazy and they belong to either two camps on RTO, blah blah) and convence everyone of your claims above, You’re missing the point of WFH and office work… is it effective to commute to work JUST to attend Teams meeting in the office? Aren’t you a grown up and aren't you able to collaborate with others both remotely and in person? RTO is more a way for many managers to justify their existence rather than bringing true value to the business. Sure, some type of work requires physical presence in the office… and when that presence is well used (attending useful in person meetings, etc), then fine… but a lot of people do work with teams globally and not in the same office… no point in RTO there… for the record, you can be lazy in the office, too… if you really want to, I bet you can pull it off…

One BU (don’t want to say here which one, if have heard know what I’m talking about) asked employees about return to office in a survey. Everyone said with majority it’s good to meet at least 2 times a week f2f. Now the same people come here and complain. When they give an opportunity to share you opinion, don’t be silent.