If they really need to save money, they should look at the overpaid directors and VPs who contribute nothing. So many managers here are terrible at leading people. Letting them go would be a positive.
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@a1 The AD position is the most useless of them all. Not sure who thought this was a good idea.
Associate Director reporting to a Director who's reporting to a Senior Director. Does this make sense to you?!?
My area was hit hard. Team of 10: 7 ‘grunts’, one AD, and 2 Directors. Who did they let go? 3 ‘grunts’ got axed… so who will do the actual work?? FML.
@bv correction those leaders are making 200k plus
@bv this must be the same team where my fav rag says left shift and tat so many times we have turned it into a drinking game
The ONLY people UHG cares about are in contracting/sales, all the rest of us are cost centers that need to be automated out.
If you support a multi-million dollar product? To UHG you make the project less profitable than it could be.
This is how they think.
How many ADs can the BH teams have? Too many delegators and not enough workers! Vp only cares about sharing who they know and where they have worked but has zero empathy and is so out of touch as a non clinician. Time to re-org that team again
My director and the senior director sit on calls all day long talking about work they don’t personally have an real knowledge about. They can talk for 30 minutes and waste the whole call going in circles or fixing minor details. It’s so damn exhausting and ridiculous. And these people are being paid 130k+. Disgusting
I've been in a specific ETIPS VP's organization for over four years and not once had he hosted a single all-team meeting. We have zero idea what his direction is supposed to be for his organization.
I would say plenty of Directors and Vps could be cut. There are way too many 30, 31, 32 grades of various titles, no reports, or little in terms of actual productive work other than meetings.
@OP I report to a VP who then reports to another VP. I was laid off Friday and a BA was told you have to do all the work with no support so figure it out.
How Optum works is they hire these VPs because of their buddy networks with potential clients. If it works they stays a while, if it doesn’t they are placed in under a year.
These VPs are not there for expertise in subject matter, simply because they went to college with the CFO of a major provider or vendor.
@aa Agreed, one thing I'll add though -- a lot of the VPs/directors who have barely any direct reports once had huge teams but due to internal politics these teams got relocated, moved around, etc. And you now see those teams under offshore leaders or otherwise ineffective leaders who have zero involvement with their direct reports, and are only there because they have connections with others lacking in morals.
We have leadership bloat but the time to cut the bloat was before all of the nepotism and politics disrupted and destroyed entire segments of this company. Now the cuts are mostly going to affect well-intentioned people.
@a2 then contracted mkt....
That is how most companies work is to cut the over paid VP's and Directors. Some of these people barely have any direct reports. The organization's structure is top heavy and that is the problem. They could keep more quality onshore job of they cut from the top. Let's be honest though, they won't!
To think of all the rework our onshore folks have to do, why? Because our offshore partners ca. Ot think outside the box and need it all in black and white om.how to do something. Show's the complete lack of knowledge that they have. This ship will sink the more they offshore, so many clients are already complaining.
What does a director or vp honestly even do? Never seen anything other than reading off of a PowerPoint
Well that’s coming as you can see Wellmed business is now broken. First medical staff then technical then business will be wound up. If you fired top down it would be sure to lead to poor decision making.
100% associate directors and above!