Thread regarding Citigroup Inc. / Citibank / Citi layoffs

Work toward the go F’ yourself goal.

No matter where you work, you should work toward accumulating a financial base to where you can tell anyone that they can go “F’ yourself”. This takes time, a lifetime in some cases but it can be done.

Don’t spend your raises or bonus’s and funnel your extra money into investments. On raises and bonus’s, put about 10% of that aside to reward yourself but be as frugal as you can be. Now Citi does not make this easy as they are extremely lacking in rewards for a job well done but still this is an achievable goal. Work toward a 1 month pay in liquid cash, then 3 months. Put this amount in a CD at a fixed interest rate. Then work toward 6 months, put this into a CD. Then 9 months, same thing, then a full year same thing. Again this takes time. Once done though, as they mature, you’ll be faced with a decision to cash them in or roll them over. Stagger each CD purchase to where they don’t all mature at once. I get it, I really do. This is not a quick fix, its not a fast turn around and you have to spend money to live. It’s a choice though that’s worth the sacrifice. Max out your 401K always.

Resist the urge to have the latest and greatest Iphone, entertainment center, PC, car….etc. … Work hard toward wealth, not money. Build enough wealth to where you don’t care what Citi does. Enough cash reserves to where if you get let go, its of no significance to your life.

If this is so great and fail safe why am I still working at Citi, you may be thinking. I have a good gig. I’m happy and I get paid. Should Citi ever deem my employment no longer needed, that’s ok too. Should Citi ever do or mandate something that I don’t care for, no issue there, I’ll just walk. Simple as that.

I admit, its not always been that way but like I said, this takes a tremendous amount of time and its exponentially harder to do if you have kids but this is what Citi hinges on. They rely on your desperation, your continued need to have to have this job. The more desperate you are, the more you can be abused and strong armed to work crazy hours with the implied “or else” that’s aways preached. They are masters at telling you several things to enforce this. Key phrases such as “its a bad job market out there” , “better the devil you know”, “other banks operate just like this” and on and on. At times all of this is true, at times only some of it and at times none of it is true.

There are other job sectors to look into you know. Citi would have you believe that this is the only place you can ever work and this is the only place that would ever employ you. It’ll do you no good to ever look anywhere else for a job, this is as good as its ever going to get in your life. This is just not true so don’t buy into it.

Work hard, invest what you can, invest in yourself as well (skillset), be patient, network outside of Citi, take care of your heath and work toward the goal of having enough money to where you walk away anytime you want to.


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Post ID: @OP+1kfdsx4c5

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This rings so true and I’m so very glad I did exactly this. I currently work with complete comfort knowing that I can walk away at any time I want and there’s nothing that anyone can about it. Why do I stay you may ask, for the money. Its easy money but here’s the thing…I don’t NEED the money. Its just nice to collect.

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Post ID: @ha8+1kfdsx4c5

As the rumor’s abound over yet another round of layoffs supposedly hitting either this week or next week, then another round in June, take the OP’s words to heart.

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Post ID: @c82+1kfdsx4c5

This is Citi. Toxic.

TOXIC WORKPLACES COMPANIES

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/19-women-ages-share-toxic-031602140.html

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Post ID: @8kp+1kfdsx4c5

Agreed to invest in yourself and invest in your future….your future that’s NOT Citi.

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Post ID: @7ac+1kfdsx4c5

bump

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Post ID: @6he+1kfdsx4c5

@624 buy the stock, make management work for us !

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Post ID: @626+1kfdsx4c5

This should be the goal of everyone to invest in:
a.) yourself
b.) your future

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Post ID: @624+1kfdsx4c5

Tons of posts of ‘what do I do now’. Follow the OP’s advice, its not a quick fix but it does help negate what Citi wants which is fearful employees. Citi wants the employees to be on edge so that they can squeeze in more hours out of them out of fear. The sheeple will step in line and put in the long hours more often in hopes that it’ll keep them from being fired.

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Post ID: @4nk+1kfdsx4c5

It’s sad that I see people scrambling to update this site on what they’ve heard, what they know and what they fear. If you reach this level of financial security, you don’t have to worry about it. The poster is right, it does take quite a while to get there but once there…..its sweet.

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Post ID: @33z+1kfdsx4c5

This post, man, has really hit close to home. The value of reaching this goal, the peace of mind, the melting away of stress and pressure far surpasses the actual amount of money you need to feel this way. If that makes any sense.

To be able to wake up each day and go to work and focus on the task at hand and NOT care if Citi lets you go….is simply put f@cking awesome.

To have it in your mind “ok, I’m busting my @ss, if they let me go, I don’t care. I have 5 years worth of pay saved up. I’ll just go bust my @ss for some other company somewhere else.”

I really think that Citi DOES want you to be in the mindset of fear, begging and groveling. The true test of willingness to “endure” what they throw at you so that it does not happen to you. I have several co-workers who work so very hard and put in the longest of hours in the hope that it’ll get noticed and they’ll be passed over. The fact of the matter is, all that extra churn they are doing will not get them anywhere. You saw how the YE comps where….zilch….zero…..nada….nil.

Here I am, just working and go home at the end of the day and that’s it. Citi has absolutely no hold over me whatsoever and it feels so good knowing that I can walk away and never look back or think about Citi ever again.

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Post ID: @2hk+1kfdsx4c5

@az

The same relationship and dynamic is true between insurance companies (medical, dental, auto, home, etc.) And customers.

It's an Adversarial relationship.

We sit on opposite ends of the Table just like in a Court Room. NEVER forget this !

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Post ID: @28y+1kfdsx4c5

@bk
I am very grateful and blessed. I’ve not come from a family of money so achieving this has been a very very long road. Now, things are different. I hold all the cards. I have all of the advantage. I am in far more control than any person in Citi. I too find it very liberating to be this free.

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Post ID: @21g+1kfdsx4c5

Never underestimate the power of networking outside of Citi.

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Post ID: @1jg+1kfdsx4c5

No matter where you work, you’ll be paid enough to survive but not escape. This post is solid advice.

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Post ID: @1jb+1kfdsx4c5

Yes, once achieved, you then hold all of the power. It’s a sweet sweet spot.

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Post ID: @1j8+1kfdsx4c5

Forget the layoffs for a moment. Assess you, yourself.
What do you want? Did you envision working in this type of environment?
Are you happy? How’s your health? Heart issues? Blood pressure ok? Any ulcers?
If your health is bad, is the work stress partial or root cause of your health issues?
How’s your family life? Do you spend enough time with them? Do they even know who you are?
Has the phrase “work life balance” translate to your family being ok with and used to you working all of the time?

Whatever these answers are, if the balance of the scale slants too much in one direction, maybe its time to seek employment elsewhere?

Citi would have you believe that they are doing you a favor by allowing you to work here. In fact its a trade of skill and work for salary but they try to sell it as a favor that YOU owe THEM.
Citi would have you believe that there’s nowhere else that you could ever work, that it’ll get no better than what it is right now. This too is incorrect.

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Post ID: @1e0+1kfdsx4c5

The younger generation, like in high school, needs to read this post. F@$%ing rock solid advice this is.

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Post ID: @12n+1kfdsx4c5

People need to stop giving all their energy to Citi. Simply put, what do you get by doing so? As we’ve seen by the comps given, nada. You’ll get the rhetoric of “be glad you have a job”, umm…ok…more of the same then.

Don’t let Citi saturate your whole life. Pour your energy into skilling up and moving out.

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Post ID: @10t+1kfdsx4c5

I am very blessed and am so grateful that I feel like I’ve just now reached this position. All the little stupid gyrations, all the stupid maneuvers are now of no significance to me. I don’t care what Citi does. I’m protected and hedged against all contingencies. There’s not a situation in which I don’t walk away winning.

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Post ID: @vr+1kfdsx4c5

Citi is really good at laying down the law but is really bad at paying the price.
I can assure you that this company has seen the last days of me working more than 8 hours per day. I can promise you that. The days of weekend hustle….gone. Late nights, nope.

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Post ID: @pq+1kfdsx4c5

OMG it’s hard for me to express how this rings so true.

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Post ID: @mg+1kfdsx4c5

@fw Exactly this. In the same boat. Accepted an offer with one level up and a decent salary boost. Consistently rated 1's and 2's till 2023 reorg happened and an absolute scoundrel MD came in and ruined everything with his nepotism and ego and 0 knowledge. Waiting for the bonus check to cash and will then hand in my notice. Citi lost a high performer in me but I saw the writing on the wall - said MD won't promote anyone but his own coterie, so I looked elsewhere. Took me 10 months to land the offer but I stayed the course. Ultimately, the loss is Citi's not the MD's. He will walk away when the gravy train turns over, but with every high performer that walks away due to unchecked nepotism and favouritism, Citi keeps losing

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Post ID: @m0+1kfdsx4c5

I immediately thought of this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamC7-Pt8N0&t=11s

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Post ID: @k7+1kfdsx4c5

This is the holy grail. Everyone should work toward this goal exclusively. Forget Cit, use Citi to achieve this. Once there, it’s like no other feeling.

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Post ID: @jb+1kfdsx4c5

I've been in F-u mode for about 2 months and am loving it! As a hard-worker who genuinely enjoys helping others, having this time where I have already accepted an amazing external offer and am just waiting for the check to clear next week had been liberating. Saying everything and anything that crosses my mind without worrying about repercussions, helping my colleagues on a team where managers try to pit us against each other so they can push for their own promotions by sabotaging their peers....it is so refreshing. Citi will be losing a high performer that really wanted to contribute. But in a company where management only cares about themselves and doing good work just makes you a target, I won't stay here a minute longer than I have to.

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Post ID: @fw+1kfdsx4c5

I could have written this post. Kind of sad I didn’t.

I too am blessed in that I put in the time and effort to build a solid emergent funds - staggering CDs as noted. They roll over at current rates. No real thought or effort required now.do I give up some growth? Yes. Point is, the funds are liquid. I also ‘did without’ to max my 401k. In my mid-30s, I started depositing 10% of all pay into my 401k with at least annual increases of 1%. Amazing how fast it’s gets you to your max point. BTW, employer’s contributions do not count as to what you can defer.

I love the actual work that I do. Have not always liked the environments in which I’ve worked. I built myself the ability to choose to leave. I do not have to be worried about the whims of my employer, direct manager, or skip level(s). When I’ve had enough, I look for another role. On my terms. If I get ‘the call’ tomorrow, no big deal. I’m readily employable with a skill set that works across industries. I will enjoy the paid vacation and the severance package; I’ll pull unemployment for a bit. Planning ahead is a good thing.

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Post ID: @fm+1kfdsx4c5

@ed
First off, good for you. I’m happy you got out of the rat race.

Man, I’m telling its sick. They want and relish the expression of desperation and stories of “what am I going to do now”, so that they can go running back to everyone else with “look at Steve, he was let go and now he’s out of a job. Step in line and work extra hard so that it does not happen to you.”

When you give them nothing and they don’t get the reaction they wanted, they get confused. You’re supposed to drop to your knees and plead that “there’s no where else I can get a job, Citi is the only place for me.” . The fact that you didn’t do that really messed them up.

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Post ID: @eg+1kfdsx4c5

Got laid off last week. Getting a nice severance after my notice period. I’m very fortunate in that I don’t need to get another job. Will not miss a mortgage payment etc. if I stay unemployed. I could tell my manager was surprised at my reaction, which was none at all. They did me a favor. I hated it, and now they gave me an easy exit with money to ensure no stress.

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Post ID: @ed+1kfdsx4c5

This is true, C does rely on the fear factor of its employees. I guess what’s worse is that they don’t care if you know this or not. As its already mentioned, there is relief in being in a state to where you can leave anytime you want. You don’t feel so under the g-n to stay.

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Post ID: @e6+1kfdsx4c5

I find it quite liberating to be able to not care what Citi does or does not do. Knowing that I can walk away anytime I want to and there’s not a thing that Citi can do to stop me. To obtain a true two way street in employment.

Yes, you can fire me at any time and I can quit at a moment’s notice as well and go home and sleep like a baby, this too is also true.

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Post ID: @bk+1kfdsx4c5

@OP

I always tell people do Not discuss your personal life at work or to your employer. Employers want to know that you have debt, mortgage, car payments, children, expenses, need to replace a roof, need to replace a boiler, etc. because your become dependent on the employer for money and benefits (medical insurance, etc.).

You can I suppose tell your coworkers how many children you have. But Never tell anyone who is college-bound (college expenses), taking violin lessons, taking martial arts (extra-curricular activity expenses), etc..

Your coworkers and Employer are NOT and NEVER your friend, family/relatives or advocate. Employees and Employers sit on opposite ends of the Table just like in a Court Room. You can be polite and respectful, but NEVER cross the boundary and always be cognizant !

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Post ID: @az+1kfdsx4c5

Took me 38 years. But it’s happening 1/28. Feel fantastic set for retirement.

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Post ID: @am+1kfdsx4c5

Great attitude and suggestions.
However at this point in time, it makes more sense to invest in PMs such as gold, silver, platinum & palladium, rather than cash.
https://silverprice.org/

Invest in land, too.
The dollar keeps being devalued, and markets worldwide are headed to crash.

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Post ID: @ak+1kfdsx4c5

Well now :)

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