Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

@aa lol as if dell pays anybody what they are "worth" to begin with... Well, minus the execs of course who are pulling in 300K + at a minimum.

@ac Even if it is, if OP went up an IC level he is entitled to a larger pay. Regardless of what area/ORG/field it is at Dell.

@ce lol seriously? You know what's funny? minorities, SPECIFICALLY blacks are hired less not because of lack of qualifications but because they are a HUGE risk to companies. It's damn near impossible to lay off/fire a black because chances are high they will pull the race card and try to sue for "discrimination" or some bullsh-t like that. Not worth the trouble for the majority of companies tbh.

Blacks are the worst though. Ends the same way 90% of the time. Get notified by a lawyer of "wrongful" termination due to bla bla bla.. No, it's the fact that you didn't work. Its the fact that you were caught doing less than the minimum.

Source - have been both a hiring manager and in HR in several companies and industries outside of Tech.

@OP A promotion is when you go from a say, i6 to an i7. Your title changes along with you being expected to take on more work/responsibilities, right? If extra money doesn't come with this then it's not a promotion. It's Dell taking advantage of those desperate for a new title.
If you move up a grade and the money stays the same, don't accept it. WHY would you?

Promotions come with MORE money. Usually a good amount more and, definitely more than you'd ever get in a yearly raise.

For reference, I was promoted earlier this year from an i6 to an i7 and it came with a 30k increase. Best raise I ever got was only 12% in the 5 years as an i6.

Do not accept more responsibility without a level change (title is irrelevant). At least if you move up a level you move into the next salary band, with potentially more room to grow your salary. Do not operate on good faith that your situation will benefit from your extra effort. Get it in writing and get it before you provide extra effort.

"The older you are and the whiter you are, the bigger a layoff target you are"

Fixed for accuracy

It depends where you are in your career. Younger then maybe but if you're an old timer then you just want to have an easy time and be able to take a nap.

@ay so true. The more you make the bigger a layoff target you are

It might be worth it if it helps you get a better position at another company. Depends on your aspirations. If you plan on staying at Dell it is a bad deal.

It is not worth it and not cool. I am also seeing jobs that are classified level up but in the same salary range as my current role. Actively looking for opportunities outside.

At some companies it’s worth it. Here it puts a target on your back as the next to go.

A few years ago I would have say do it. It would probably have set you up for promotion down the line. These days? No way.

He-l no.

I got convinced last year to move up to an account set with a much higher spend, but my quota effectively tripled with no adjustment to my base or commission structure—because it was framed as a “great opportunity.”

I was a silly girl.

Honestly, climbing the corporate ladder isn't that meaningful anymore if you’re just leaving every 2–3 years for a pay bump.

the ole rotten carrot trick unless you are a really good boot cleaner, get out the kiwi

no. oldest ruse in the book. added responsibility with no added pay.

It depends, is this a new area that you want to get experience in?

Moving up in title without a change in salary to match us being taken advantage of.. The carrot before the stick scenario... "Oh all that extra work and responsibility will be rewarded" Not a hope i would do it, why take on the extra pressure?

That's not a promotion. That's the company taking advantage of you. I wouldn't do it. Dell will never pay you what you're worth if you do.