Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Failure May Be Our Only Path to Rebirth

Have you looked at the tools we use to run these factories? Archaic doesn’t even begin to cover it. It’s a miracle anything makes it out the door. We operate in a black box—limited visibility into the process, barely any actionable data at the line, let alone post-escape. We're not managing advanced manufacturing; we’re performing a séance and hoping the spirits align.

Our automation systems? Imagine a tangle of spaghetti code duct-taped to tribal knowledge, with a UI that feels like a late-90s SharePoint experiment. Want intuitive interfaces or seamless automation that actually reduces manual errors? That’s for the competition. At Intel, we write dense, rarely-read wikis about TD “advanced” features that never see standardization. Each factory invents its own flavor of inefficiency. Fixing one tool’s issue takes weeks, and god forbid you try to reuse that fix—your neighbor’s system speaks a completely different dialect of disaster.

And let’s talk about our priorities. Not yield. Not device health. Nope—CE! Let’s obsess over naming conventions and tweak charts that don’t correlate to product quality, just so we can say we’re “aligned.” Meanwhile, our metrology gaps are Grand Canyon-sized, but instead of investing in solutions, we tighten irrelevant specs and then act shocked when product suffers. Do we learn? No. We blame “product mix.”

I’ve hoped for reform—for vision, for ingenuity to be rewarded, for leadership to actually lead. Instead, what do we get? Commitments missed with clockwork regularity. Leaders who fail upward like it’s a competitive sport. Talented engineers and insightful ICs shown the door, while the low-performers cling to the wreckage like barnacles. So much for a “targeted” layoff.

Failure, as bleak as it sounds, may be our only way out. We’ve burned through every other option. Lip Bu Tan—you say you want to change the culture. Fantastic. How do you plan to make this an engineering-driven company again, when Intel hasn’t operated with technical integrity in over a decade?

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Post ID: @OP+1k1d6rr6z

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Death is the path to life. -Sabbac

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Post ID: @p2+1k1d6rr6z

It's amazing how you can tell when a comment is written by ChatGPT. Too many dashes

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Post ID: @hh+1k1d6rr6z

@e5 every tortured pan-company reorg of the automation/FA/MIT complex has only made things worse.
Theirs is a pattern of systematic distruction of innovation in the name of "breaking down silos" such that the innovators are pushed out and only the cling ons remain. They couldn't fix or replace this stuff if they tried. The only people left are the ones that institutionalized the old broken systems. The latest reorg under AS is literally history repeating itself. It will go nowhere even though they will add even more heads to an already bloated and ineffective organization. They have two choices: run it as is, or replace all of it. Including the malignant mass that begot it.

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Post ID: @fb+1k1d6rr6z

"Our automation systems? Imagine a tangle of spaghetti code duct-taped to tribal knowledge, with a UI that feels like a late-90s SharePoint experiment. "

You can bet that someone said more than once "we will fix that in the next release" and of course it never happened. Now the whole system is a house of cards and everyone is afraid to make the change that will bring the whole thing down. Unfortunately, a problem that is not as isolated as you would hope.

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Post ID: @e5+1k1d6rr6z

OP your thesis statement is correct if you leave off "to Rebirth"

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Post ID: @e4+1k1d6rr6z

Vintage toolsets in the process step loop. x86d we've been soaking blood from a turnip for eons. Intel has lost ground with old nodes. Now we're here circling the EUV and only coming up with 18/14a.

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Post ID: @e0+1k1d6rr6z

@OP, spot on!! I couldn’t agree with you more about archaic factory tools. Intel got really good at decon/demo and reuse, yes it was a cost savings at one end but at the other end what has it really cost Intel?

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Post ID: @ch+1k1d6rr6z

@ah you can't fix stupid, LBT doesn't care. If OP is saying something new to these guys it only means that the present and the future will be just as poorly managed as the past has been. Intel is a layoff machine. All the CEO has to do is point- and the poorly managing managers will eagerly decimate their ranks again and again. They will do the easy stuff until they have to start liquidating assets instead of burden

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Post ID: @bf+1k1d6rr6z

@OP Way too much text.

Please use AI to summarize it into something, even if that makes it more boring.

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Post ID: @be+1k1d6rr6z

@b6 send your pointed feedback to NGA again and indicated nothing has changed. What’s the worse he can do? Fire you?

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Post ID: @bb+1k1d6rr6z

But think of all the cost saving Intel has achieved over the years by short staffing the automation folks! INTC to the moon….

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Post ID: @ba+1k1d6rr6z

It is hard watching what is happening. We all knew or felt the ship sinking but there was hope. The hope is still there, but you have to try real hard to see it.

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Post ID: @b9+1k1d6rr6z

This is called Engineering Debt in literature.

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Post ID: @b7+1k1d6rr6z

@ah & @b1
sent pointed feedback to Naga nearly a year ago—he responded, but nothing changed. Everyone I knew with the ability to help right this ship has either been let go as part of ISP or left of their own accord this summer. The only VP with any real vision is leaving this quarter. Entrenched voices have won. No meaningful change is coming.

At this point, I don’t believe internal reform is possible. If it were, it would’ve happened already. Instead, we’ve pushed out those who could lead transformation and doubled down on the same broken systems, processes, and priorities.

We still can’t respect external customer feedback enough to act on it with urgency. We miss milestone after milestone and confuse bluster for progress. What we need is month-over-month, quarter-over-quarter improvement. What we get is the same Intel routine: reshuffling org charts and dressing up failure with optics.

We don’t have a decade to figure this out—we’re down to 2–3 years, max. Without a complete reset—likely under a new owner—we won’t survive.

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Post ID: @b6+1k1d6rr6z

I don't believe OP is such a failure.

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Post ID: @b2+1k1d6rr6z

send mail to naga and lbt on factory issues, atleast we can say we did our part as engineers reporting real problems

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Post ID: @b1+1k1d6rr6z

And we think the current engineers and leadership can fix this obvious mess? Don’t think so they are part of the problem now. If the only way to fix it is send an email to the cel we are doomed.

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Post ID: @az+1k1d6rr6z

We are getting to a point where everyone sounds alike when they write, thanks to AI. Oh well....sentences like "This is not A, this is B".

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Post ID: @ak+1k1d6rr6z

I just read your post, and honestly—it’s one of the most insightful and courageous takes I’ve seen in a long time. Everything you highlighted—the archaic tools, fragmented systems, and misaligned priorities—is exactly why Intel is at a turning point right now.

Here’s the thing: Lip-Bu Tan has publicly committed to rebuilding Intel as an engineering-driven company. But leadership often operates in an echo chamber—they need real voices from the frontlines to understand what’s broken and what’s possible. Your perspective isn’t just a complaint; it’s a roadmap for change.

If you’re willing, I’d encourage you to share your thoughts directly with LBT (yes, seriously). Keep it sharp and solution-oriented—maybe 3 key pain points and 3 actionable ideas to fix them. Short, honest, data-backed. Leaders respect that.

Intel needs more than strategy decks; it needs people like you to speak up. This is one of those rare windows where your voice can make a real difference.

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Post ID: @ah+1k1d6rr6z

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