Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

In the US at least, Citrix was never legally bound to give you X days a year PTO. There are no requirements for it. It's a benefits perk, and as such, it's always been at the discretion of the company.

Cool facts but they are out of context. I have 30 pto days per year currently, we are moving to “unlimited” pto days which means it’s discretion and no longer legally bound to allow me to take 30 days per year.

If you're a US employee you only get to carry over 5 days total from one year to the next. If you've been saving up leave for years I guess I'll break it to you gently - you screwed up. If on Dec 31 you have 25-35 or whatever days on the books, on January 1 you have 5.

I’m at 8 years, bummed they are taking away my extra pto I earned over the years. To me it’s just become a job, idc what happens for Citrix but if they keep paying I’ll keep floating around. In reality the job isn’t hard but more corporate jobs relax after the first promotion. If we get laid off, there are endless tech companies to go work at, still one of the fastest growing markets. If they cut a ton of people are we get acquired by another company, you’ll go in at a higher level. Going to ride it out, this is the 3rd or 4th layoffs I’ve been a part of, if you are a performer they want to increase margins.. it makes sense to keep those people around, who knows what TK is thinking though outside of padding his bonus

Great post @OP+1j4TXCCD ! See you on the other side brother/sister!! I'm getting what I'm owed from that PoS TG and then I'm gone to create something better elsewhere. Innovate through acquisition, say that back 3 times and let it sink in!!

People often have a higher value to their current employer than they do on the job market. You might have a higher salary earned over the years at Citrix. On the job market, all they care about is (a) are your skills useful to THEM, and (b) what salaries are those skills going for these days? Whether you worked for Citrix for years wouldn't mean anything to them. Why would they hire a more expensive person when there's a cheaper person with the same skill set? That's just the way it is.

Many people are shocked to discover their actual worth on the open market.

Does anyone else find when applying for your same role (ic) at another company they want to level you down and pay you at the starting salary they would give anyone like your years of experience don't command a premium?

Thank you for this post OP, and all the positive reply’s. I have been with Citrix 7+ years and now too am facing an uncertain future.
We all need more positivity in our lives and I’m also feeling combined nerves and excitement about what the future holds.
Wishing you all the best of luck 🤞

I love you.

I agree, it's better to choose to leave with dignity than wait. Also agree with those that said it's a lesson learned. Hoping and praying that this fiasco might end well was naive.

All the tell-tale signs were there long ago that this was a failing business on a death spiral. And, appointing David Henshall (a finance guy) was the last nail in the Citrix coffin. CFOs rarely have the skills to turn around a business towards new growth. Henshall and TK know how to cut and trim. They'll give your future prospects a short haircut, that's about it.

Not quitting. my options are:

• Get laidoff and use the severance to pay for time to look for a new job
• Don't get laid off and work even less than I am working now. I am not worried about getting a bigger stack of work on my already huge plate. Not my problem.

Can anyone confirm, HR and managers of certain teams were offered bonuses to get their members to quit?

I am 10 years + at TIBCO, eliminated as well...and i feel just like you.
Anyway let's keep our energy for the future

I left Citrix a little while back after 6 years with the company. Felt exactly the same as the OP here. I left voluntarily - wasn't counting on a severance in this climate, and even if I got one, would it be enough if I couldn't find another role when there's thousands of other people competing for the same jobs at the leanest time of year for hiring? I wasn't willing to chance that just to get a payout. While there's definitely challenge and uncertainty in leaving, I quickly noticed that I was no longer stressed out. No longer worried about how I was going to be successful in an organization seemingly intended on serving itself first. No longer anxious about the uncertainty to follow within the organization for the next several months and probably longer with our customers and partners. For the first time in a long time I am happy about my prospects and future because it's no longer being dictated by what a group of billionaire PE folks think I should be selling or doing to make them more money in the end of their strategy. I've been through a few of these before in my almost 30 years in IT, and I've never come out of a PE takeover or take-private better career-wise than I came into it. Those who facilitated it made billions off our backs and promises of "opportunity and growth". Not this time. There's a TON of us ex-Citrites out here who still have a passion for our customers and for technology that are more than happy to help anyone transition out of Citrix - just reach out!

Team, as an ex-Citrite and one that has faced retreat and regrowth in the past, I commend all of the thinking on this thread.

You are not jour job or your badge. You are a vessel of knowledge, experience, attitude and results. You want to maximize your value and your experiences (fun, work, spiritual, health, etc). While change is hard, and believe me, each change does make you feel like you've been tossed around, it usually works out for the best.

Being in a place where you can thrive, add value, work with great people, while still delivering good results (yes, the results do show up in the paycheck) is what you all deserve. If Citrix is going to make life miserable, its worth the short-term transition pain to reach that new place.

Best of luck to you! Reach out to your network- there are many ex-Citrites out there who will very willingly open doors for you. The rest is up to you- clean up your LinkedIn, your resume, your outlook on life and you will be amazed at the jobs that show up.

And remember, the jobless rate is still < 4%, which means 96 out of 100 are working. And turn-over is still around 10-15%, which means of the 96, there will be 10-15 jobs that will open up in one year. Unless you are on the bottom of the performance curve, you have a shot at those 10-15 churn roles in an economy that is still hiring. And even when there are hiring freezes, those tend to last 2-3 months while there is some people who jump to new jobs, and then they tend to open up. So hang in there and keep reaching out to your network!

Well said. I know uncertainty is scary, but you know the old saying about life giving you lemons. Another chapter in life is around the corner, and I'm sure you'll make the most of it. And if you can get a job outside the software industry, so much the better. This business is the opposite of stable.

Well said. Looking for a new gig in a shifting economy can be a little bit like Bungee Jumping - scary at first, and then exhilarating. Best of luck to you on your journey

Thank you @OP+1j4TXCCD. I am a Citrite of 10+ years and this is EXACTLY how I'm feeling right now. Best of luck to you, me, and the many others who can identify with this post.